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All Forum Posts by: Nathan Gesner

Nathan Gesner has started 316 posts and replied 27552 times.

Post: What is Fair Split when All Utilities Paid by owner

Nathan Gesner
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HOW TO SHARE UTILITIES 101

You have a property with two or more units, and the utility meters are shared. There are a few options.

1. Pay to separately meter the utility. This can be very expensive and is usually the worst choice because you can't justify the cost.

2. Charge the tenants a higher rent rate and include utilities with their rent. This is the simplest method, but it also means your tenants are more likely to abuse the utilities by leaving windows open with the heat or A/C running, leaving lights on, ignoring the toilet that constantly flushes on its own, etc.

3. Pay the bill yourself, then reimburse yourself by charging the tenants based on a formula. This takes a little more work, but it's the fairest and reduces the likelihood of tenants that squander utilities.

If you choose #2 or #3, there are considerations:

Start with an average. Use varies throughout the year. Heating costs go up in winter, as does electricity due to the reduced natural light and more people indoors. Electricity can also spike in the summer with A/C. Contact the utility provider and get a historical average based on the last year of use. It won't be 100% accurate, but it will be close enough. I recommend you do this annually to adjust for utility increases and other variables. If your average heating bill is $150, you may not collect enough in the winter months when the bill reaches $225 but you'll collect extra in the summer when it drops to $65. If you base your tenant charges on the historical average, you should come very close to collecting the entire amount over a one-year period.

Charge a higher rate. If the water bill is $100 a month, increase the price by 20% (or whatever you decide is fair) to compensate you for the time required to split and bill and to cover additional use when tenants squander the utility. If the bill is $100 a month split between four units, increase it to $120 and charge each tenant $30.

How to calculate charges. Don't make it more complicated than it has to be. If you have four 2-bed/1-bath units with the same appliances, split it four ways and call it a day. You can make minor adjustments based on the type of appliances (dishwasher, clothes washer and dryer, air conditioning, etc.) and the size of the rental. If Apartment A is a 2-bed/1-bath with a washer/dryer and Apartment B is a 1-bed/1-bath with no washer/dryer, Apartment A should pay a higher rate. Another option is to split the cost based on the number of occupants in each unit but this also means you'll need to adjust the charges as tenants move in/out, so it requires more work and I wouldn't recommend it. I recommend a simple spreadsheet to check your math and it will make it simple to adjust each year.

End the complaints. Tenants may complain about your method of calculating how much each unit pays. They think it's unfair because they only shower once a week but can hear the upstairs neighbor showering twice daily. You can end this by showing them an actual utility bill. Why? Because a large percentage of the charges are base fees that do not change based on use!

I just looked at a utility bill with a total charge of $184.12 but $116.50 is from base fees! If I divide this bill by four units, each tenant would pay $46.03. If they were separately metered, each tenant would pay the $116.50 base fees and their individual use, which would be 3x higher than what they pay when sharing a meter.

There are many options, but don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. Tenants save money when using a shared meter, so there's plenty of room for error when calculating how to distribute the charges.

Post: Our military renters obligated to fulfill lease agreement

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I’ve had some experience with leasing to military families, and your concern is valid. In Texas—and really anywhere in the U.S.—military tenants are protected under the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act (SCRA), which does allow them to terminate a lease early if they receive deployment orders or are transferred to a new duty station. So, yes, even with a 24-month lease, they can legally break it under those circumstances. That said, there can still be some benefits to offering a longer lease. For one, military families tend to be reliable tenants, and many prefer longer lease terms for the stability—especially if they expect to be stationed in the area for a couple of years. You also lock in rental income at a consistent rate without having to worry about turnover or vacancy for two years, assuming they aren’t transferred. But ultimately, you’re right—there’s no guarantee they’ll stay the full 24 months, so the benefit really comes down to how likely you think they are to stay based on their current orders.

Post: Is This Commercial Lease Deal Considered Good?

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Quote from @Alexandre Boustany:

A 7% return will double your money in ten years. That's considered safe and could be achieved through a variety of investments that require less work and risk.

A good real estate investment with a 12% return will double your money in six years.

Getting your money back in 14 years? Terrible.

Post: Finding Leads for Wholesaling

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If real estate were "free and easy" then everyone would do it, the market would be flooded, and nothing would have value. Things of value require time, energy, and resources. If you keep looking for the easy button, you'll never make it.

Post: Real estate beginings

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Quote from @Jackson Peli:

Hello everyone, I've been learned about real estate on and offfor  the last year and a half and am now ready to take the next step in my journey would love help figuring this out and am happy to be here.


Everything you need to know for your first purchase can be learned in six months. What are you missing that's preventing you from making your first purchase? What questions can we answer for you?

1. Start with BiggerPockets Ultimate Beginners Guide (free). It will familiarize you with the basic terminology and benefits. Then you can read a more in-depth book like The Book On Rental Property Investing by Brandon Turner or The Unofficial Guide to Real Estate Investing by Spencer Strauss.

2. Prioritize your financial stability. Eliminate debt, establish a budget, and save. Remember, the notion of amassing wealth without investing is a dangerous myth perpetuated by self-proclaimed experts. A prudent investor doesn't seek quick riches through shortcuts. To thrive in real estate investing, you must maintain a firm grip on your finances. Explore my personal favorites, Set For Life by Scott Trench or The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey, for invaluable financial insights.

3. As you read these books, watch the BiggerPockets podcasts. This will clarify and reinforce what you are reading. You can hear real-world examples of how others have built their investment portfolio and (hopefully) learn to avoid their mistakes.

4. NETWORK!!! Get out of your comfort zone. Stop hanging out with your deadbeat buddies who spend all day drinking, talking sports, and otherwise wasting away. Go to BUILD YOUR TEAM at the top of the screen and look for local investors or meetups in your area. You can also find real estate investing groups through meetup.com, Facebook, or a Google search. Birds of a feather flock together!

5. Now, you need to figure out how to find deals and pay for them. Again, the BiggerPockets store has some books on this topic, or you can learn about it by watching podcasts, reading blogs, and interacting on the forum. A handy search bar in the upper right makes it easy to find previous discussions, blogs, podcasts, and other resources. BiggerPockets also has a calculator to analyze deals, and I highly recommend you start this as soon as possible, even if you are not ready to buy. If you consistently analyze properties, recognizing a good deal will be much easier when it shows up. Find Brandon's videos on YouTube for the "four square" method of analyzing homes and practice. It doesn't take long to learn how to spot a good deal.

6. Study the market. You can learn to do this independently or get a rockstar REALTOR to lead the way. I highly recommend a well-qualified REALTOR who works with investors and knows how to help you best.

7. Jump in! Far too many get stuck in the "paralysis by analysis" stage, thinking they just don't know enough to get started. You could read 100 books and still need to learn more because certain things must be learned through trial and error. You don't need to know everything to get started; you need a foundation to build on, and the rest will come through experience and then refining your education.

You can build a basic understanding of investing in 3-6 months. How long it takes to be financially ready is different for everyone. Once you're ready, create a goal (e.g., "I will buy at least one single-family home, duplex, triplex, or fourplex before the end of 2019") and then do it. Real estate investing is forgiving; the average person can still make money even with some big mistakes.

Post: How Do Property Managers Track Utility Charges Per Property?

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I'll second what Lauren said. You need to analyze the situation, identify key indicators for each address, and develop a tracking system that is accurate and easy to follow. This could be your PM software or even a simple spreadsheet.

Post: Just starting to figure out the basics

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Quote from @Jack OMalley:

I would seriously consider investing in another state. I grew up in Oregon. It was liberal in the 80s, and has only gotten worse. If you can invest in another state that values equal justice under the law, then I recommend doing so.

1. Start with BiggerPockets Ultimate Beginners Guide (free). It will familiarize you with the basic terminology and benefits. Then you can read a more in-depth book like The Book On Rental Property Investing by Brandon Turner or The Unofficial Guide to Real Estate Investing by Spencer Strauss.

2. Prioritize your financial stability. Eliminate debt, establish a budget, and save. Remember, the notion of amassing wealth without investing is a dangerous myth perpetuated by self-proclaimed experts. A prudent investor doesn't seek quick riches through shortcuts. To thrive in real estate investing, you must maintain a firm grip on your finances. Explore my personal favorites, Set For Life by Scott Trench or The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey, for invaluable financial insights.

3. As you read these books, watch the BiggerPockets podcasts. This will clarify and reinforce what you are reading. You can hear real-world examples of how others have built their investment portfolio and (hopefully) learn to avoid their mistakes.

4. NETWORK!!! Get out of your comfort zone. Stop hanging out with your deadbeat buddies who spend all day drinking, talking sports, and otherwise wasting away. Go to BUILD YOUR TEAM at the top of the screen and look for local investors or meetups in your area. You can also find real estate investing groups through meetup.com, Facebook, or a Google search. Birds of a feather flock together!

5. Now, you need to figure out how to find deals and pay for them. Again, the BiggerPockets store has some books on this topic, or you can learn about it by watching podcasts, reading blogs, and interacting on the forum. A handy search bar in the upper right makes it easy to find previous discussions, blogs, podcasts, and other resources. BiggerPockets also has a calculator to analyze deals, and I highly recommend you start this as soon as possible, even if you are not ready to buy. If you consistently analyze properties, recognizing a good deal will be much easier when it shows up. Find Brandon's videos on YouTube for the "four square" method of analyzing homes and practice. It doesn't take long to learn how to spot a good deal.

6. Study the market. You can learn to do this independently or get a rockstar REALTOR to lead the way. I highly recommend a well-qualified REALTOR who works with investors and knows how to help you best.

7. Jump in! Far too many get stuck in the "paralysis by analysis" stage, thinking they just don't know enough to get started. You could read 100 books and still need to learn more because certain things must be learned through trial and error. You don't need to know everything to get started; you need a foundation to build on, and the rest will come through experience and then refining your education.

You can build a basic understanding of investing in 3-6 months. How long it takes to be financially ready is different for everyone. Once you're ready, create a goal (e.g., "I will buy at least one single-family home, duplex, triplex, or fourplex before the end of 2019") and then do it. Real estate investing is forgiving; the average person can still make money even with some big mistakes.

Post: Do you know someone ba...

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Unfortunately, BiggerPockets doesn't allow you to tag your posts with any European countries. You could try searching for your country using the magnifying glass in the upper-right.

Post: Investor Friendly Real Estate Agent Needed - Dallas–Fort Worth and Surrounding Area

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Quote from @Daniel Sharma:

Hi,

Looking for investor friendly real estate agent in the Dallas-Fort Worth and surrounding area. Someone who is familiar with live-in flip and house hacking strategies. Thanks!

Biggerpockets created a place for you to find agents in your area with our matching system that pairs you with investor-friendly agents directly who are already on our site and vetted by BiggerPockets.


Post: Does my tenant have rights to the Ring doorbell account?

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Quote from @Katie Lyon:

If the cops have been to the property four times, you have a problem.

I have removed tenants for less. It's a matter of knowing how to swing the stick while simultaneously offering them a carrot. I remove tenants all the time without using the court system or any illegal tactics. Sometimes, it's as easy as asking them to leave. I've learned a lot of lessons over the years and share them in my book, but it takes time and experience to get good at it.