All Forum Posts by: Nathan Harden
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Post: I'd Like Advice On My 10 Year Plan

- Real Estate Agent
- Puyallup, WA
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Quote from @Josh Milewski:
Quote from @Nathan Harden:
It's not unrealistic at all. Difficult? Yes.
Doable? Absolutely.
I love hearing the goal... Now I want to hear what steps you are going to take to get to that goal. It's one thing to say "I want to own 100 units" Awesome! Now, what steps are you going to take to essentially double your portfolio every year? How are you going to purchase these? How much capital will be needed? At what stage are you going to incorporate property management?
Also, keep in mind that 10 years down the road the market is going to look a hell of a lot different than today. Adapt with the times, don't be narrow minded. Be aware of the things that are changing all around you.
All the best. I'm cheering for you.
Let me give that a go. Since it's been over 10 months since I posted this goal list, I'll start by highlighting what I've done and then move on to what I'm going to do.
- Started with a lot of learning. Listened to BiggerPockets and read books (Rich Dad Poor Dad, BRRRR, The Book on Rental Property Investing, The Book on Managing Rental Properties, The E-Myth Revisited, Ready Fire AIM, and some others)
- Then I decided I was going to Birddog because I wasn't ready to do anything "risky".
- After a while, I realized that was going to work and I knew my business partner was trying to grow his business, so I offered to help.
- I then spent the next 7 months or so learning his business, how it works, how he's getting leads what he's closed on the works.
- Fast forward to December and we finally closed on a lead that has been in his CRM For over a year. We bought it in cash and had a purchase agreement with a flipper a couple of days after closing. We were considering making this our first rental and it would have cash flowed well but we decided to wholesale it and use the funds towards closing more deals in 2024.
And that brings us to now.
Currently, the plan for year two is this:
- Direct mail 5500+ motivated sellers
- Generate 114+ incoming calls.
- Follow up on ALL existing leads monthly.
- Make 33 offers.
- Close 5 times.
You mentioned adapting to my current situation and I believe I'm doing that. My original goals didn't really consider where I was going to get the money to secure these doors, especially the first one. I knew I had the drive to see these goals materialize but I didn't have the funds. So, I partnered with someone who had the funds and needed extra help. In doing so, and getting real exposure to investing, my goals have changed some. I still think buy and hold is where I want to end up but I'm not sure the 10-year goal outlined above is exactly how I should achieve it.
Boom. Now we're talking. Love it!
You are already adapting. You had a goal of 1 rental unit this year, had your chance at it but decided that selling it to a flipper was a better option for you at this time.
That's how it's done. Not just being so narrow minded like "Oh man, gotta get my first rental."
You got the rental but had a clear enough mind that by selling that property will propel you to bigger things in the future.
Post: Want to Help/Partner

- Real Estate Agent
- Puyallup, WA
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Word of advice... Just saying "I'm a realtor" isn't bringing any extra value to an investor.
That investor can go find any "I'm a realtor" in your area.
What sets you apart from the other realtors in your area? What knowledge do you posses that others may not? What experience do you have? How does the investor know that you are the better option over the other 1000 agents?
Investors look for VALUE. "I'm a realtor" Isn't value. Tell them the value you bring to the table and I promise, that will help you stand out.
All the best.
Post: Invest in DETROIT

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"Currently trying to find lenders for a DSCR loan"
You are going to have a very difficult time finding a lender that will loan on these smaller valued homes. And if you do, the fees get out of hand. QUICKLY.
Sometimes the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Post: Managing fake service and emotional support pets

- Real Estate Agent
- Puyallup, WA
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I cannot speak for the landlording laws of Portland but I can tell you that you are absolutely able to charge those guests extra for having to clean up after their dogs. Peeing inside my property would never be okay, I would charge them for EVERY cleaning fee and damage done.
Don't let this slide. This is your property and they disrespected it.
Post: how will "elderly owner passed away at home" affect my BRRRR? Looking for advice

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Damnnnn Lilly.
"I was not concerned about this when I placed the offer. I really don't care about the elderly passing away naturally in a house, even if I live in that house." YIKES
To answer your question. Yes, this will effect your rental. In the way that you will have less people interested. Will everyone care? No. But there will be people that absolutely do not want to live in there.
Post: Private Lender and seller finance

- Real Estate Agent
- Puyallup, WA
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3 milly?! I have to ask... Is this your first deal? If it is, please don't borrow all of that money if you don't have experience. It just isn't a good idea. I'm all about shooting for the stars but you're essentially trying to walk into a 3mil property with zero dollars out of your own pocket....?
To answer your question. It would be PM, not HM lender. You would need to find somebody that you personally know because a HM lender would never give a first timer 100% of the downpayment AND rehab AND hold 2nd position without you having ZERO skin in the game.
So, is this possible....? Ehhhhhhh
Post: I'd Like Advice On My 10 Year Plan

- Real Estate Agent
- Puyallup, WA
- Posts 551
- Votes 377
It's not unrealistic at all. Difficult? Yes.
Doable? Absolutely.
I love hearing the goal... Now I want to hear what steps you are going to take to get to that goal. It's one thing to say "I want to own 100 units" Awesome! Now, what steps are you going to take to essentially double your portfolio every year? How are you going to purchase these? How much capital will be needed? At what stage are you going to incorporate property management?
Also, keep in mind that 10 years down the road the market is going to look a hell of a lot different than today. Adapt with the times, don't be narrow minded. Be aware of the things that are changing all around you.
All the best. I'm cheering for you.
Post: Best practices for predicting vacancy, repairs and Cap Ex rates of LTRs?

- Real Estate Agent
- Puyallup, WA
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If it's a LTR and you're running into 10% vacancy, then you're doing something wrong.
It all depends on where you're from, the property and the area. If you're buying a house built in 1925, you're going to put more money away for CapEx & Repairs than if you were to buy a house built in 2010.
Capex, repairs and Vacancy rates are not a one size fits all.
Post: Best use of $200K?

- Real Estate Agent
- Puyallup, WA
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Here's the thing, we can't answer this question for you. Only you can answer this for yourself. One person may say put it in a long term Buy&Hold. Another may say use the capital for Fix&Flip.
At the end of the day, it's what Joe wants. What does Joe want? Does Joe want to be a landlord? A flipper?
It sounds like you are already questioning if you want to be in SF rentals and you were only a landlord for 8 months.
This quote "I'm wondering if I want to be in IL long-term or not and if I want to be in SF rentals long-term..."
Sounds like you just answered your question. This does not sound like SF rentals are your thaaang. And thats FINE!!!
Did what makes Joe happy. Not what the internet tells Joe.
All the best.
Post: Rehab a fix and flip with contractor

- Real Estate Agent
- Puyallup, WA
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You are not going to find a contractor that will walk every property with you if you do not at the minimum, have it under contract.
Get a contractor or 2 out to 1 property and have them break down the cost of each item needing addressed so at least you have a ballpark of what the items cost when you are on your own.
"Okay, well this bathroom is about the same size as the bathroom that I walked last with Gary, the contractor last week. He said it would cost around $4k"
Boom. You then have a rough idea and you would be surprised how much knowledge you can get from just a little walk through with a couple GCs.