Originally posted by @Manolo D.:
Chances are, if no one complains, nobody is going to know. :)
Oh, I see. So much for the idea of hiring independent contractors and paying the flat fee they quote per project and having them do it on their *own* schedule and with *no supervision* other than being there to help them not get injured while on one's own property!
So I take it, in California, an independent contractor that does minor work doesn't really exist then, unless he's 'licensed' by CSLB then he can quote the sky is the limit. Which brings me back to the enigma as to why CSLB even bothers providing for small work under $500 in materials+labor per project o be done by 'unlicensed' - to me it implies they are contractors as long as they are putting a pricetag on the labor as opposed to be asking for a certage hourly wage.
My way of recording and reporting wages paid to independent contractors/laborers has so far always been (for the past decade) to issue a 1099-MISC to anyone who I paid $600 or over in the past year. I've never paid anyone other than per-project, ever. If this method of paying for help around my homes isn't legally sound in CA, I will have to change my ways.
The easiest way is just do it all myself.
The other option which might be cheaper in the long run is to hire one (only 1) employee to work on my own properties (am a 'builder-owner until CSLB license issued) and pay for WC insurance which I hear is what, $4 per $100 payroll issued?
It would be way cheaper via employee than independent since I'm doing roughly half the work anyway, for example if I had accepted Mr. Handyman's $500 quote for painting house exterior labor only, I would still be doing half the work/painting anyway so why not hire someone with WC, pay them $11/hr and save lots of money that way. I mean, look at all the replies in this thread simply stating $500/labor to paint a house is cheap. It sure is! But again, CSLB laws REQUIRE that $500 be paid only to a LICENSED contractor, NOT to any body else even if it was the neighbor or the neighbor's adult son that could really use the cash. I can only imagine how much this area's licensed contractors would quote me (a builder owner) just to paint some stucco... $5,000 maybe?
As for this house time, to get out there and start painting by 8am! Neighbors, aren't they awesome! =D
PS- I do think having any worker sign off (like you do) on the project once completed, agreeing they finished and thus no work is no longer left for them is simple and solid. However does it really have a standing at unemployment hearing once the worker claims he/she was given projects one after another for months on end and suddenly they stopped being needed? Sure hope so.
By the way, isn't even an hourly helper that is 'hired' also under some level of employment 'contract'?