All Forum Posts by: Jason N.

Hey Chris, there are probably tons of success stories on the forum. There is someone Sherpa interviewed last year named, Clay Manship, that gets 3 deals or so per week through texting. He has one of the most consistent deal flow I've seen and I think this may be very helpful. 

He texts and supplements that with calling. It looks like you have the resources to do both. I hope the insights here will help. - 

Hey @Tommy Daggett, the software bulk and single skips. It skips LLC, corporations, trusts and individuals with credit bureau level data. It produces numbers, emails, mailing address & if they've moved recently, distress indicators, contact info for relatives, deceased info, litigator info -- all while just being pay as you go with no charges for duplicates, records you've skipped nor if the software doesn't produce any data.

@Kyle Chadwick Texting seems to get better results because you can get in front of more people in less time. For example, you can send 100 messages in about 30-40 seconds. You'll also get a quicker response whether the person is interested or not. You don't have to choose one over the other, you can use both. I've seen people text first, then call followed by email or mail.

Hey Alex, I'll try to be subjective here as much as possible. I agree with Antoine that texting and emailing are great ways to reach out to prospect. It can even act as a tool to warm up that prospect before your call. There is just not the same apprehension with these methods than picking up an unknown call. There's still value in calling. We see with texting, investors are able to get in front of hundreds of folks within a minute or two.

You'll also need to look at your list source and your skip trace quality. These are the first two dominoes and if these don't topple, your marketing will suffer downstream. 

Listsource.com is a great location to source your list. Without self promoting, you can then skip trace at a company that provides credit bureau level data -- since this will give you the most accurate numbers. From that data, you can manually text, call, email and even send mail until you acquire your first deal which allows you to then do this at scale and outsource accordingly.

I typically see investors text first, followed by a call then mail. You could always add email and maybe RVMs to the list. 

Tons of options here. I'll through Lead Sherpa in the mix for its LLC, corporation, trust, and individual skipping. Credit Bureau level data. 30-40 different data points.

Jason gave a lot of great insights.

There are free options and paid options. Some of the free options Jason gave includes: FB, Craigslist, local REI etc.

Depending on how versed you want to get with sourcing your own data, you could go to places like listsource, propstream, propelio, succesor data etc to purchase a list of properties that meet whatever criteria you are looking for. This is a paid method but you could quickly get a list of a few thousands if you wanted to within minutes.

From there, you would skip trace your list to determine the contact information for these property owners. The best skip traces use credit bureau level data because if you can't get the right number for the property owner, the other dominoes won't fall.

The quickest way to get in front of people is through texting (I may seem biased) because of how you can send messages at scale.. People are also less apprehensive to respond to a text as oppose to picking up a call. That said, most investors I come across are texting then calling then mailing their list -- so a mutlitouch type of approach to reach people on their preferred medium.

Hey Patrick, there are quite a few resources you can go to to acquire your off market lists.

There are: listsource, propstsream, property radar, propelio, successor data, title companies or county websites.

From there you can skip trace the list of properties they give you to get the phone numbers, mailing address, emails and contact information for the owner.

From there, you can text, call, mail, email, social ads to get in contact with the owner to determine if they are interested in selling.

There's a lot of benefits in going upstream to source your own deals -- especially in this market.

Propstream is known for their data sourcing  and have gone downstream to include skip tracing etc. Their strong point is certainly sourcing and that's probably why there's this huge disparity in your numbers.

The best way to find the property owner is going to be through skip tracing them. The best skip tracing tools use credit bureau level data and has the flexibility to do a single skip or a batch.

In this case, as long as you have the property address, you'll get a few data points you can use to reach them -- whether that's through calling them, texting them, email or mail.

A lot of great info here.
In addition to driving for dollars, you can also get list of properties from listsource, propstream, property radar, successor data or rebogateway. You can also source lists from title companies. They'll often times have the numbers for their property owners.

Driving for Dollars - physically or virtually through Google Maps  - will be a great place to start and the others listed above will be great to graduate to.

As for skip tracing, Brandon shared a good resource. You may also check out Sherpa which produces credit bureau level data. Alternatively you can look at TLO, LexisNexis or IDI.