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All Forum Posts by: Nicholas Smith

Nicholas Smith has started 9 posts and replied 33 times.

Post: Made An Offer On 1st property!

Nicholas SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Stockbridge, GA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6

We finally figured we would do a house hack on our first property because of the wedding that is approaching. We found a 3/2.5 near Jodeco Lake in Jonesboro, GA and the seller actually tried to fix it up already. They did a horrible job on flooring but it's whatever. So they were asking for 145,000 for the property. We made an offer for 130,000 but that was a week ago. We haven't heard a peep from the agent. What should we do?

Post: Financing First Flip with Little Money

Nicholas SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Stockbridge, GA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Joshua Brown:

@Nicholas Smith as a lender I see this all the time. Investors want to put as little money down and assume little risk. The issue in this scenario is then the bank is taking all the risk. That usually doesn't work out in the borrowers favor. That is why many turn to HML. With the terms HML provide they put most of the risk back on the borrower, as it should be. The investor will reap the rewards and as well take the risk.

 I completely understand that logic. Thanks! That makes sense. I was thinking about doing wholesales since my money isn't where I would want it to be. I also was thinking about just doing a buy and hold to a sense. Like stay in it a year and then put it up for sale. The slow and steady approach. After all, isn't that who wins the race haha

Post: Financing First Flip with Little Money

Nicholas SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Stockbridge, GA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Joshua Brown:

@Nicholas Smith as a lender I see this all the time. Investors want to put as little money down and assume little risk. The issue in this scenario is then the bank is taking all the risk. That usually doesn't work out in the borrowers favor. That is why many turn to HML. With the terms HML provide they put most of the risk back on the borrower, as it should be. The investor will reap the rewards and as well take the risk.

 I completely understand that logic. Thanks! That makes sense. I was thinking about doing wholesales since my money isn't where I would want it to be. I also was thinking about just doing a buy and hold to a sense. Like stay in it a year and then put it up for sale. The slow and steady approach. After all, isn't that who wins the race haha

Post: Financing First Flip with Little Money

Nicholas SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Stockbridge, GA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Sandy Thomas:

Since you cannot do conventional financing and HML are beyond your risk tolerance, I would recommend that you adjust your timeline and use an FHA loan. The lower down payment will afford you more cash for renovations. The 12 month owner-occupancy requirement would simply give you more time to make needed repairs and save up for your next deal. 12 months from the time you move in, you will be free to flip yourself in to the next deal.

 That is exactly what I'm starting to see is the obvious and smartest bet. I think I will do exactly that.

Post: Financing First Flip with Little Money

Nicholas SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Stockbridge, GA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6

the house is a 3 bed 2 bath going for 119,000. We would be doing most of the work ourselves so I estimated the rehab cost to be around 10,000. I predict the ARV to be somewhere around 155,000 to 165,000 because every house in the neighborhood was at least 165,000. Some were higher but after doing comps I think 155,000 is a safe bet. We would live in the flip and work on it for 6 months then put it on the market to sell.

Post: Financing First Flip with Little Money

Nicholas SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Stockbridge, GA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Emilio Ramirez:

If it's a real deal, why don't you get it under contract and assign it to an investor who can do the project.  Make a little cash, start building that capital and your network. Ask the investor if you can tag along or shadow him....?

Why don't you post the numbers...? there's plenty of pros on here who would be happy to critique your plan.

 Ok I will post the numbers. Thanks everyone for the feedback!

Post: Financing First Flip with Little Money

Nicholas SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Stockbridge, GA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Ruben Prieto:

If you believe there's a chance it wont sell then why would you want to flip it?

Consider alternate exit strategies.

 It's not that I don't think it will sell. I'm just trying to look at worst case scenarios. 

Post: Financing First Flip with Little Money

Nicholas SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Stockbridge, GA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Shannon K.:

I'm in the same boat as you @Nicholas Smith. I am searching for a hard money loan in Western NY.  Not NYC!  I have crunched the numbers on a nice deal, have some of my own cash to put into the deal, and an experienced partner and I'm still running into road blocks! 

Can't find a reputable NY lender thus far... The property I'm bidding on doesn't qualify for conventional financing. Rehab loan or cash only.

I thought about a HML but I don't want to take on that much risk.

Post: Financing First Flip with Little Money

Nicholas SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Stockbridge, GA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6

We have found a house! We made an offer but after hearing the FHA loan isn't going to work for flipping we are at a dead end. We did research on the different options, and we just want to get some insight as to what we should do. Hard money lender is an option but if the house doesn't sell, we are in trouble. Conventional loans with around 15% down payments aren't going to work. We were thinking about ARM but we just aren't sure. Anybody has some wisdom to shine our way for our first flip.

Post: Newbie From Jonesboro, GA

Nicholas SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Stockbridge, GA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Jason Hawk:

Welcome to BP. Have you ever consider investing in the Midwest? Great ROI and you can easily find good property at a awesome price. Let's connect!

 Maybe in the future but right now im just focusing on properties within my zipcode and a little further outside of it.