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All Forum Posts by: Nikhil Bhat

Nikhil Bhat has started 2 posts and replied 14 times.

Quote from @Eric Greenberg:
Quote from @Nikhil Bhat:

I guess it matters how well you know the area. If you dont know it at all you need someone on your team that does, especially around here. It’s vital. Then I would start in Zillow/Redfin/etc to select multifamily and choose whatever price point youd like. For example you choose $200k max price youll see most of ‘center’ city has nothing at all to offer until your far north/south/west and the places that do will be C/D most likely if it doesnt need more than the $10k rehab you were looking for.

Then start ramping that price up until you hit current deals or recent sold MFHs in areas that are A/B. Thats a quick way to tell what your budget should be. That being said covid makes it a little tough but youll be in the ball park. 

 @Eric Greenberg that's good advice! I'll try that. I don't know the area too well, so I'll need to find someone who does. Any recommendations?

Quote from @Eric Greenberg:

Id be really really careful about a multifamily for $120k that only needs $10k rehab in and around Philadelphia. Youll absolutely be in a C/D neighborhood and would be the opposite of what Id tell an out of state investor to start with in Philly.

 @Eric Greenberg thanks for the advice. What would you say is a more realistic budget for me to aim as a beginning investor in Philly so I don't get caught in C/D neighborhoods or end up in warzones?

Quote from @Drew Sygit:

@Nikhil Bhat you have to build your network and earn their trust by actually buying a good deal when they bring one to you.

On the otherhand, many wholesalers will see you as a new "victim" and try to sell you their overpriced crap.

So, you need to put time into learning the market to figure out who you can trust and who to avoid.

 @Drew Sygit Yep, trying to start building my network by posting here. I don't even know what I don't know yet, but hoping to educate myself to avoid the scenarios that you just described. Thanks for taking the time to respond!

Quote from @Dan Powers:

@Nikhil Bhat I work with a lot of out of state investors in the Philadelphia region, would be more than happy to point you in the right direction. 


@Dan Powers appreciate it, will connect with you separately.

Quote from @Henry Lazerow:

Not trying to be mean but why would any agent give you off market deals on $120k class A/B buildings LOL they would just buy themselves (any good agent can buy $100-120k cash themselves even) or send them off to a repeat buyer. You need build relationships first which means closing deals on the market with agents, showing you are a solid buyer first. I am an agent and sell a lot of deals pre/off market but they definitely are not being sent to first time buyers. 

@Henry Lazerow Fair enough.You mentioned that I need to build relationships first with an agent and close deals, and that's what I'm attempting to do here. I recognize it may take some time, and that's okay. Thanks for your insights!

Quote from @Wale Lawal:

@Nikhil Bhat

You won't have the same intimate, day-to-day knowledge of a distant market that you have of the market in which you live. You don't have an in-depth understanding of the best neighborhoods—or the worst. You will have to rely on research, word of mouth, gut instinct and the opinions of any professionals you hire.

Understanding the laws and regulations regarding property ownership and property taxes in your target area is another challenge. Even if you read every line of the local codes and ordinances, what it says on paper and what happens in the real world don't always match. Talk with property owners in the area to get a true understanding of local challenges.

Networking Out-of-State
You'll need good contacts in the area to make your investment plan successful. That doesn't only mean a real estate agent. You may need a property manager, a maintenance worker, and a contractor before long.

The secret to many out-of-state investors' success is finding and hiring an excellent property management company. It will be their job to fill vacancies, collect rent, make repairs and handle emergencies.

If you lived in the area, you might choose to manage the property yourself. If you live far away, professional property management is an extra expense you simply must incur to safeguard your investment.

Experienced builder and property manager Rusty Meador notes, "No matter how good of a real estate deal you find, it is only as good as its ability to be managed well."

All the best!

Thanks for the tips @Wale Lawal! Hoping to pick up some of those connections you mentioned here as I start to explore the area and network on here. Will keep your advice in mind as I explore.

Quote from @Joseph Micheal:

Lol I would also add to be careful WHERE you invest....

You could find something great for 120 (but may be in the middle of warzone)

If you are in VA may be worth your time to do some research, find some AREAs that fit your criteria and drive around. Then you can make an informed decision. In Philly there are general realtors (city wide) but certainly some that have neighborhoods of special interest.

I agree with you. I'm trying to find the best places to invest in Philly and having someone with good knowledge of the city would be very helpful. I definitely don't want to purchase in a warzone, so that's what I'm trying to avoid by gaining this insight.

I'll continue to check out spots in VA - I've just found that the price points tend to be much higher here, so wanted to explore other opportunities. Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Quote from @Bob Stevens:

Hi if you are cash you do not need a realtor that is not where the deals are . I have done 100s and 100s and 100s in my market never using a realtor

Good luck 

go to the local RE forums, plenty of deals there 

Thanks for the insight. If you're not using an agent, how are you finding these deals? Where are they coming from? Are you looking for someone who's just there hoping to offload a property without needing the middleman? Or a wholesaler?

@Michael Dumler Understood. What would you feel is a more realistic budget for something like this?

Hi all,

I'm an out-of-state investor currently located in Northern VA. I am exploring deals for small multifamily properties in the city of Philadelphia, specifically duplexes at this stage. I am hoping to find someone who can source off-market deals too (though I'm not averse to good on-market deals). I would need someone with good local knowledge who can help to guide me towards areas that are better for investing. If the agent has some kind of mailing list where they send out off-market deals to, that would be a bonus.

My criteria:

- Max Purchase Price: $120k

- Interested in buy-and-hold investing and getting tenants for renting the rooms

- Since it's my first out-of-state deal, I'd be interested in more A-B-C grade properties in decent areas to get my feet wet

- Less than $10k in rehab, so relatively good condition (unless there is strong potential for a BRRRR)
- Would be open to suburbs surrounding Philly too

Looking forward to connecting!