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All Forum Posts by: Pamela Fleming

Pamela Fleming has started 3 posts and replied 18 times.

Post: Tresa Todd mentorship

Pamela FlemingPosted
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 25

I too took these master classes and many of their other workshop seminars. What blows me away is they are not "teaching" you anything. They are telling you ways you can invest but there are no steps, processes or understanding on how and where to start. A step by step plan and goals for the first week to year, so many women I connected with couldn't even digest the old school data they spoke about. With taking the $17 master class I'd say 90% of the women don't begin a journey into REI, which is unfortunate. I have been buying real estate since 2019 for my own personal portfolio and have continued to have a desire and curiosity on building outside of my portfolio as n investor. In early 2023 I decided to get my real estate license. I wanted to learn more an drive deeper into real estate from different directions to understand where I wanted to take my journey. After being successful in my current investments and the ways in which I found the opportunities, I knew I had an alignment with real estate investing. I have owned and operated an IT Staffing firm for the past 25 years so real estate, contract, headhunting real estate (finding leads) finding owners ( finding a developer for a client) came so natural for me. I have started a small really kinda kickass program to help women start their journey into REI. I had too, lol after my experience with wrien, I felt a deep desire to create something that is unique, different but of service to the seller and the women who represent them! A place for women to learn the process so that they can be extraordinary in their career as a real estate investor. if you are interested in learning about it, message me and I will send you the link.

Post: WREIN, Kelton Todd, Tresa Todd-Lugten

Pamela FlemingPosted
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 25

they are a scam for sure! we started a support group on FB if you wanna join us. FREE!!! Women supporting Women! 

Women in Real Estate Investing is the name of the group... 

Post: WREIN, Kelton Todd, Tresa Todd-Lugten

Pamela FlemingPosted
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Susan Real:

Really hate to speak negatively, as I don’t ever like to drop to that energy, but I must use my voice to steer women away from this. They have made a lot of false advertising claims that their contract you sign with the program specifically negates so you cannot sue for any reason. They have zero accountability once you hand over your credit card.

This is not specialized knowledge- it is free that you can find anywhere- free on social media, YouTube, bigger pockets, podcasts. Furthermore they teach you outdated methodologies that may have worked 5-10 years ago. We live in a very different environment now. 

This is primarily focused on wholesaling. I was told it was much more diverse and my experience has not led me to think otherwise. I have been in the program for almost the full year now.

You do not get mentorship with Teresa Todd. You only get to ask her limited questions via chat on her weekly live calls. She does not mentor her students. Coaches run the calls, and most of the I get the feeling only want to promote their business or their own books they have self published. There is also very high turnover with the coaches. The experience is very disconnected across coaches and they just show up to ask questions. No subjects, new learnings, etc. are being taught.

Systems, processes, and operations are outdated and poorly managed. With hundreds of people joining each month at $20k per person, the hundreds of millions of dollars should be invested into paying customers- not a fancy office and inexperienced staff that are probably getting paid minimum wage or low hourly rates. 

There is zero accountability and ownership over major issues. For example, they let in the program essentially anyone who pays. There was someone who was let into the program who ended up scamming thousands of dollars from students because they were “making deals together.” The program is holding no accountability over this.

I really tried to embrace the experience and immerse myself in the program. But a woman’s intuition is always right and this is a money grab for them. Tresa always talks about how she doesn’t even like real estate investing. What?! Really, all of this blows my mind that a company can behave in this way and literally be making hundreds of millions of dollars per year just by fear based selling tactics. Don’t do it.




Post: WREIN, Kelton Todd, Tresa Todd-Lugten

Pamela FlemingPosted
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 25

We just started the group and will be doing a zoom call next Monday to meet and greet and do Q&A on the needs of the group

Post: WREIN, Kelton Todd, Tresa Todd-Lugten

Pamela FlemingPosted
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Mayerling Mejia:

@Lori Brock- Hi Lori I finished the class. It was good 7 days. However, I decided not too proceed with the mentorship either.


 we started a FB group of women who did the master class and didn't join. we are all here to help for FREE..... women building women! the group is Women in Real Estate Investing. 

Post: WREIN, Kelton Todd, Tresa Todd-Lugten

Pamela FlemingPosted
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Susan Real:

Really hate to speak negatively, as I don’t ever like to drop to that energy, but I must use my voice to steer women away from this. They have made a lot of false advertising claims that their contract you sign with the program specifically negates so you cannot sue for any reason. They have zero accountability once you hand over your credit card.

This is not specialized knowledge- it is free that you can find anywhere- free on social media, YouTube, bigger pockets, podcasts. Furthermore they teach you outdated methodologies that may have worked 5-10 years ago. We live in a very different environment now. 

This is primarily focused on wholesaling. I was told it was much more diverse and my experience has not led me to think otherwise. I have been in the program for almost the full year now.

You do not get mentorship with Teresa Todd. You only get to ask her limited questions via chat on her weekly live calls. She does not mentor her students. Coaches run the calls, and most of the I get the feeling only want to promote their business or their own books they have self published. There is also very high turnover with the coaches. The experience is very disconnected across coaches and they just show up to ask questions. No subjects, new learnings, etc. are being taught.

Systems, processes, and operations are outdated and poorly managed. With hundreds of people joining each month at $20k per person, the hundreds of millions of dollars should be invested into paying customers- not a fancy office and inexperienced staff that are probably getting paid minimum wage or low hourly rates. 

There is zero accountability and ownership over major issues. For example, they let in the program essentially anyone who pays. There was someone who was let into the program who ended up scamming thousands of dollars from students because they were “making deals together.” The program is holding no accountability over this.

I really tried to embrace the experience and immerse myself in the program. But a woman’s intuition is always right and this is a money grab for them. Tresa always talks about how she doesn’t even like real estate investing. What?! Really, all of this blows my mind that a company can behave in this way and literally be making hundreds of millions of dollars per year just by fear based selling tactics. Don’t do it.




 Agreed!!!

Post: WREIN, Kelton Todd, Tresa Todd-Lugten

Pamela FlemingPosted
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Lori Brock:

Hey folks, I have an opportunity to join a mentorship program with Tresa Todd-Lugten and the Women's Real Estate Investors Network. It looks perfect for me, but I'm concerned there may be something bad that I don't know about. I'm not too worried about overpaying, just about getting bad value, or worse yet, bad practices. Does anyone have any experience with these people?


 I would not join her 20K mentorship! All this can be found for free! Many of us from her master class started a support group on FB "Women In real Estate Investing". Geared towards helping each other for free. Im an investor and will share all I know for free! It's about women helping women not taking advantage my charging 20K 

Post: Tresa Todd mentorship

Pamela FlemingPosted
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Twyla Southall:

George, they probably don't even need to do RE deals anymore, the training is wildly profitable.  I only invested the initial $17 - it was the best $17 I've ever spent but $10K was too steep for me.  May take me a bit longer, but I think i can arrive at the same level of success with enough hard work, smart choices and great networks.... that is my goal.

 its now 20K for her mentorship