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All Forum Posts by: Paul Williams

Paul Williams has started 8 posts and replied 49 times.

Post: Over 200 unit apartment complex closed!

Paul WilliamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Round Rock (Austin), TX
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) commercial investment investment.

Purchase price: $13,000,000

Key principal and asset manager for over 200 unit apartment complex. I syndicated this investment.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

I wanted to scale up from smaller properties

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

It was originally on market, which is how we found the deal. Placed an offer and built a relationship with the seller and broker. It did not sell and went off market. Later on the broker contacted me and asked if we were still interested. After many months of negotiations, we were able to get it closed. Now paying quarterly distributions to investors.

How did you finance this deal?

Agency loan assumption at 4.29% interest.

How did you add value to the deal?

Curb appeal was terrible- broken/missing rotted siding, roofs were in really bad shape and occupancy was 80%. Repaired/replaced and painted all exteriors, replaced roofs, resurfaced asphalt parking lots and got the occupancy to 95% and delinquency down.

What was the outcome?

Property is running like a well oiled machine and we are paying quarterly distributions to investors.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Stay persistent and be patient. We could have purchased the deal earlier for a higher price, but that would have been to our disadvantage.

Post: I have 450k cash

Paul WilliamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Round Rock (Austin), TX
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31

Max, good job on getting to $450k cash.  I guess the answer is- it depends. If you're looking to do more single family properties,  I've partnered with a guy in northwest Indiana for flips (10 year relationship with him) and a guy in Atlanta for new builds (6 year relationship with him).  Or you can do more of what you've been doing, as that seems to have worked well so far.  If you're looking to scale up to apartments, that's my area of expertise (over 1200 so far) and I can share some things to look for and pitfalls, or share some co-investment opportunities.  As you know there are a hundred different ways to do well in real estate.  Depending on your goals, you could focus those funds in one place or diversify to multiple active or multiple passive opportunities, or split between active and passive.

Post: Has anyone tried the RaiseMasters program by Hunter Thompson

Paul WilliamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Round Rock (Austin), TX
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31
Quote from @Mark Updegraff:

I just joined after attending Raisefest in Louisville....  I'm definitely going to put đź’Ż into his program and will give you honest feedback along the way if you're interested.  You can ping me in this thread for an update anytime.  Sincerely, Mark Updegraff 

 @Mark Updegraff, now that you've been in the program for a year, did you get a lot of value out of the program?  Any tips/pointers, etc?  Did you join Capital Collective or Raise Masters?  Thanks in advance.

Post: Mixed use 24 Apts plus office building

Paul WilliamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Round Rock (Austin), TX
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) commercial investment investment in east Texas.

Purchase price: $2,700,000
Cash invested: $540,000

Mixed use- 24 apartments and multi-tenant class A office building.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Cash flow, accelerated depreciation and great long term investment.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Email from commercial broker who introduced me to the owner. Didn't haggle too much as I thought it was a good deal already.

How did you finance this deal?

Community bank financing 80%LTC.

How did you add value to the deal?

increasing rents and getting one vacant office spot available to rent

What was the outcome?

So far, so good. Hit 7% cash flow year 1, on track to get 8.25 or so year 2.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

I wish I had gotten a longer term rate instead of opting for a lower rate for a shorter time frame.

Post: Quick guide with cost estimates for flipping properties

Paul WilliamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Round Rock (Austin), TX
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31

An aspiring investor asked me for some advice on how to buy, repair and sell properties for profit. Here's the advice I shared. Don't crucify me if my median numbers don't match yours or aren't realistic in your area.  Find what the numbers are in your area and use those and tweak your numbers as you get more experience, or better yet, get with someone with experience to guide you through the process.  Note, I typically buy 800-1200sf, 30-70 year old houses for $25-40k in B and B- areas and sell them for $85-120k.  So I'm usually all in around $60k and sell for $100k. Obviously if you're in a higher priced market, the margins need to be adjusted to make sense. I hope what I shared helps you.

We are looking for properties that we can make $20-30k after all expenses. Always shoot for $30k, but if you find a really easy one (very light rehab) and you'll make as low as $20k, take it.  If you plan to make any less profit than that, it is too risky. If you have to drop the price by $5k or $10k or if something goes wrong (use your imagination), then you’ve lost money on the deal or worked for several months for free, neither of which if fun.

Deals that will make you $30k are not easy to find, but they aren’t hard either. You just have to work for it. Houses that you will break even on or lose money on are easy to find. You don't have to wait until properties come available that meet that criteria; you can and should place lower offers on properties so that you can make the profit you want. Sometimes they will accept your offer, but usually they will reject the offer. That’s okay. You don’t have to buy every house, just the ones that make sense. For example, if a house is worth $100k when it is move-in ready and the rehab cost is $20k, then you need to buy it for $40k. Even though they're asking $70k, you can offer $40k and see what they say. I will often offer at least 10% less than what I'm willing to pay because we often get a countered offer. If you place enough offers, you'll get some deals.  You can also use wholesalers, mail campaigns, etc to bring you deals.

Here are some general estimates for repairs. These prices are an average of what I pay and you might not need to do all of these in order to make a house ready to sell. If you're in a nicer area or want to do an upgraded rehab, then plan accordingly.  When I'm doing a nicer rehab, I'll spend about 50% more on kitchen, bath and flooring.

Roof, gutters, downspouts: $6k

Redo bath: $3k (each)

Redo kitchen: $2500 (laminate countertop, replace cabinet pulls, paint cabinets, new faucet/sink

Flooring: $3/sf

Siding: $3k

Interior Paint: $2k

Exterior paint: $2k

Fans, electrical outlets, switches and lights: $950

Windows: $400 each

Appliances: $2k

HVAC: $3k

water heater: $800

Mini blinds: $300

Misc: 15% of budgeted rehab

Soft costs: (cost of utilities, taxes, insurance, finance fees if any of the money is borrowed) plan on 3 months more than you expect to hold the property

Don't forget the cost of selling, which will cost you around 10% of the sale price.

People don’t want to do any repairs, and they want the house to be nice, clean, move-in ready and not old looking on the inside. They also want to buy in a neighborhood that is kept up; not in a neighborhood with cars on blocks, bars on the windows/boarded up houses, mobile homes, etc. You only want to buy houses in neighborhoods that people want to move to. If you buy in a rental area, you'll have a hard time selling it for the price you think it should get.

Again, this isn't comprehensive, just a quick guide that might be able to save you time on a property you are considering. For a more comprehensive approach, get @J Scott's Book on Flipping Houses and his Book on Estimating Rehab Costs.

Post: Realtor suggestions in Indiana

Paul WilliamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Round Rock (Austin), TX
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31

@Ashourrina Henshaw, I can recommend my realtor.  She does a great job and she understands investors (many realtors only understand non-investment buyers).  I can send you her info.  @Adrien C. is a great guy too and knows the Indiana market very, very well.  I've bought several houses for him and he won't steer you wrong. I highly recommend him as well.  On a side note, I'm looking to sell one of my rentals. If you're interested, I'll be happy to give more info.  I could sell for $55k. It brings in $800/mo rent and is professionally managed. If you're looking for a flip property, you should talk to Adrien or my realtor. Let me know if you want more info.

Post: agreement of purchase and sale in Texas

Paul WilliamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Round Rock (Austin), TX
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31

@James Gallen, would you mind sending me your purchase agreement?  I just filled out the 9 page TREC, and you're right, that was too much work! Thanks.

Post: Cell Tower effect on property value?

Paul WilliamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Round Rock (Austin), TX
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31

@Timothy Lin, I purchased a commercial property (office/retail) 3 years ago with a cell tower on it.  It was a similar situation, where the owner had sold a permanent easement to the cell tower company and no benefit to me. I always had trouble with the property.  Some potential tenants were worried about what the signal would do to them or their equipment, and some just didn't like it.  When I tried to sell it, every prospective buyer wanted to know what benefit they would get from having the tower on it, and the answer was nothing.  No one wanted it on the property, and that seemed to be the deal killer with every prospective buyer. I just sold the property earlier this year for a 10% loss.  It was an expensive lesson to me.  At the time, I was fairly new to commercial investing.  In the future, I would be reluctant to purchase a tower with no benefits unless the property is at a significant discount. My parents own a residential property with a cell tower on 22 acres that they picked up pretty cheap. I'm guessing they'll have trouble selling it anywhere near market value (compared with other properties without a cell tower on it).  Based on these two experiences, I would think you need to get it for at least a 30%, if not 50% discount.  I hope this helps.

Post: How to break into the hotel business?

Paul WilliamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Round Rock (Austin), TX
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31

@Patrick Philip, Talk to hotel owners.  They are nice people for the most part.  I got interested in hotels about a year and a half ago and started talking to people.  I found I had 2 friends that own multiple hotels each (they don't even know each other and they're in the same small town). I've also asked around and found that other owners have been really helpful in sharing their experiences.  I've also been reading books and articles on hotels and hotel investing, and have been analyzing deals and submitting offers. Hotels are a whole different animal and is nothing like SFR or multi-family. @Jimmy Klein has some really good info in his reply, and he's got a lot of experience with hotels.

-Paul

Post: Equistream?

Paul WilliamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Round Rock (Austin), TX
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31

@Mike Foley, Can you elaborate? Save the rest of us from trouble! Tell us how it went.