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All Forum Posts by: Peter Vekselman

Peter Vekselman has started 177 posts and replied 549 times.

Post: Success Rate in Real Estate...Shockingly Low

Peter VekselmanPosted
  • Real Estate Professional
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 615
  • Votes 225

There seems to be much blame to go around on the low success of our industry.  Many seem to point fingers at gurus, changing land scape of the industry, institutional investors, short sightedness of investors, lack of this and that and etc and etc.

In the end my personal conclusion is that a tiny percentage of people getting into this industry have really any idea what it really takes to become successful.  No one understands the price that needs to be paid.  The amount of time that needs to be put in.  The challenges and total dead ends they will encounter.

There is no one central playbook to success in this industry.  If there was, we would all know about it by now.

This industry is really no different then trying to be a professional athlete, an astronaut, top level executive, great entertainer, world famous scientist or surgeon.  Well, there is one big difference between investing and so many other things.  In our world, there is zero barriers to entry.

Post: Success Rate in Real Estate...Shockingly Low

Peter VekselmanPosted
  • Real Estate Professional
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 615
  • Votes 225
Quote from @K S.:
Quote from @Peter Vekselman:

I see exactly what you are saying, but not sure I understand the point.  Bottom line, during the same time from pretty much everything has gone up in prices.  Food, cars, etc...   Don't think just because there are more people getting educated in real estate, that in itself has anything to do with prices going up.  

Post: Success Rate in Real Estate...Shockingly Low

Peter VekselmanPosted
  • Real Estate Professional
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 615
  • Votes 225
Quote from @K S.:
Herein lies the rub with me, you do consulting and you're an agent. Many of these comments are sellers of something. I'm just trying to be realistic with my actual experience. The reason why real estate has become unaffordable for the middle class is because we have too many consultants, books, seminars, videos, websites like this etc. It's almost no different than pumping up a stock. We probably don't need more resources

 Im confused.  Are you saying that a reason real estate has gone up in value is investors know too much.  and we need to dumb this industry down?  i dont understand...

Post: Success Rate in Real Estate...Shockingly Low

Peter VekselmanPosted
  • Real Estate Professional
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 615
  • Votes 225
Quote from @Shawn Krieger:
Quote from @Peter Vekselman:

If you had to guess, what is the success rate in real estate investing?  Success being defined by someone being able to live above average lifestyle strictly based upon their earnings in real estate.

I bet its below 5%.

What do you think?


 5% of who?

 @Shawn Krieger

those that try to achieve success.  not just think about it, but actually put time and effort into it.

Post: No Central Authority In Real Estate Investing...Disaster or Heaven on Earth?

Peter VekselmanPosted
  • Real Estate Professional
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 615
  • Votes 225

Realtors, doctors, athletes, teachers, limo drivers, governments, lawyers, pharmacists, police, actors, etc.  What do all these and many more professions and industries have in common?  They all have central authorities and boards to monitor, oversee and regulate the people that take part in these industries.  

Real estate investors do not have anything like this.  And Im not taking about the ultimate board, which is the law and government.  Im talking about specific board for the industry.

What do you think?  Is this good or bad for us real estate invetsors?

Post: Success Rate in Real Estate...Shockingly Low

Peter VekselmanPosted
  • Real Estate Professional
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 615
  • Votes 225
Quote from @Mark Williams:
Quote from @Peter Vekselman:

If you had to guess, what is the success rate in real estate investing?  Success being defined by someone being able to live above average lifestyle strictly based upon their earnings in real estate.

I bet its below 5%.

What do you think?


 Hi Peter, 

Absolutely, it's great that you're aware of the 5 percent statistic, but it's essential to remember that success in real estate, like in any field, is not solely determined by statistics. With determination, a property mindset, and a never-quit attitude, you can defy the odds and achieve your real estate goals. Statistics may provide a general overview, but your individual path is what truly matters. Stay focused on your goals, keep learning, adapt to challenges, and your chances of success will far exceed any statistical prediction.

As Winston Churchill once said, "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: It is the courage to continue that counts." Keep moving forward with courage and determination!

 @Mark Williams brilliantly said.  no question about it.  biggest killer of dreams in real estate is peoples inability to move forward...its crazy to think about how many dreams and goals lay on the road to success of real estate investing.  for those that have stood the test of time see many people simply give up and quit...

Post: Success Rate in Real Estate...Shockingly Low

Peter VekselmanPosted
  • Real Estate Professional
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 615
  • Votes 225
Quote from @Jim K.:
Quote from @James Hamling:

So the ugly truth is the most successful approach in REI today is either the get-rich-slow program, or start selling the "secrets to success" and apparently it doesn't have to actually result in any real success to sell.

It just has to push the right psychological buttons.

I still remember the 3-day seminar I went to with a friend. Beforehand, I told him flat-out, "Believe nothing you hear. They're trying to rip you off." The presenter of this seminar actually had to put up a disclaimer on his slide projector that included the statement, "In real estate investing, most people make nothing." every hour of the seminar or so.

My friend spent the first day joking about my paranoia.

By the third day he was ready to mortgage his house if I went half-in with him to buy this program's Diamond level coaching. With absolutely no exaggeration, I literally saw this man's brain washed right in front of me.

We're not friends anymore.

 @Jim K.  lol....so I have been in the same shoes as your friend....and i think maybe i did mortgage everything I had:)

Post: Success Rate in Real Estate...Shockingly Low

Peter VekselmanPosted
  • Real Estate Professional
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 615
  • Votes 225

@David Dey

this business needs more of people willing to do deals with their so called students.  that in my opinion is the ultimate way to learn and grow.  

Post: Success Rate in Real Estate...Shockingly Low

Peter VekselmanPosted
  • Real Estate Professional
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 615
  • Votes 225
Quote from @Andrew Syrios:

It sort of depends on what we mean by "success." I suspect that 5% figure is true regarding wholesalers. I suspect flippers and buy and hold types are a decent amount higher. But those who do house hacking and slowly but surely build up a portfolio probably have a success rate much, much higher. I would bet over 50%. 

The problem in many cases is that people want to make a quick buck with real estate but it doesn't work that way. It's a long game but a very lucrative one.

@Andrew Syrios

i cant believe in todays day and age people look at real estate as an overnight success.  but you are right, many do.  overnight in this business literally equals luck.  and we all know that will run out sooner or latter.

Post: Success Rate in Real Estate...Shockingly Low

Peter VekselmanPosted
  • Real Estate Professional
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 615
  • Votes 225
Quote from @Steven Foster Wilson:
Quote from @Peter Vekselman:

If you had to guess, what is the success rate in real estate investing?  Success being defined by someone being able to live above average lifestyle strictly based upon their earnings in real estate.

I bet its below 5%.

What do you think?


 This is why we need more resources around real estate, not just general resources, specific resources to help mentor people just getting in! For example im from Ohio, it took me 5 years to really understand what I was doing and start making serious money. The first 5 years was filled with a lot of wasted time, money and energy!

 @Steven Foster Wilson your story sounds just like mine.  it took me three years to get to zero.  thats because I went backwards to a tune of almost $750k in the first several years.  i think to do this business in a vacuum and all alone is nearly impossible and in the end may not be worth it.  i dont think most people would put up with the hell I went through trying to build this myself...