Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Richard C.:
The question is moot for me anyway. $55k in New Hampshire usually won't buy a vacant lot, never mind a B class rental house.
There are 10 houses priced at or under $100K on your MLS. Most come with 1+ acre. There is even one under $50K. I'm sure that most have issues but none of them are junkers. There is no shortage of vacant lots in the $50K range. Does Keene have a war zone?
My experience in most areas is that for every listed prop there is a comparable sold off market for less. Don't make me check the comps to prove it. :)
I'm assuming you ran that for Antrim, the town in my profile. I would consider that entire town a "C" neighborhood. Per capita income about $17k a year. Almost 50% of school children getting free and reduced lunch.
What Demographics would you consider B versus C?
Actually I was using realtor (no listings were in Antrim). I was intrigued by the lack of low priced small town and rural props so I just checked the NNEREN. There are 200+ listings for SFHs under $55K. And 200 sold comps under $55K. They include some MHs.
Do you think any of those houses might qualify as B? I'm not familiar with Eastern seaboard rural, only desert rural which is a totally different thing.
Would ANY qualify as B? I suppose it is possible. Certainly, the vast majority would not.
I expect where you are seeing SFHs under $55k, you are looking at some of the very poor rural villages, and probably mostly in the far North of the state.
New England really is very picture-postcard-like. Tiny little villages surrounding a town common, with a white-steepled church and maybe a meeting house. It's a cliche for a reason.
And those towns, which look superficially similar, can have demographics and property values that vary a great amount. Often a significant driver is the quality of the local school district. Another driver is transportation. New England's highways are really pretty dreadful. They are based on traffic patterns from 200 years ago, and are almost always undersized. The entire state of NH has three limited access highways. So 40 miles is a LONG way here.
I also don't really think A/B/C/D can be classifications of houses, without context. They are a classification of the building AND the neighborhood.
I would consider this an A house. Not a luxury property (that is a whole separate classification as far as I am concerned) but a solid A: http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/2...
Bedford is a town populated largely by professionals, college-educated, with an excellent school system and low poverty.
I would consider this a B house:
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/4...
I actually own a house in this town. Peterborough is a small town, median family income somewhere in the 50-60k range.
I would consider this a C house:
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1...
I own a house in this town as well, we already discussed the demographics. Adults without a college education outnumber those with college 2-1. Nearly half of students getting free and reduced lunch.
This is D:
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/2...
Rural poverty. Lousy school system. In all seriousness, I suspect there are more people in Hinsdale who could tell you how to cook meth than could get admitted to college. And that is not a slam on my part. Many of these poor rural towns are tough, striving communities. But they're gritty.
War zones are trailers, rotting away in the woods, and some houses like the D example above, only split into a couple substandard apartments.
I'm going to stand by my statement. You're not finding B properties (except maybe on a lucky long-shot) in New Hampshire for $55k.