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All Forum Posts by: Brian Gibbons

Brian Gibbons has started 114 posts and replied 4413 times.

Post: subject to

Brian GibbonsPosted
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Similes options are unique to California and that I highly recommend you have a license to do them

I know you're acting as a principal in a lease and option but your intention is to sublease and sub option

The gray area is 

do you need a license to show a property to a tenant buyer?

I think the tenant buyer side of lease options is a pain in the *** quite frankly and I would rather have a leasing agent earned one months rent to show the property in their license so that takes care of that

Do you need a license to talk to the seller about entering into a sandwich? Well if you're moving into it that's one thing but you're not, you're actually brokering a service, you were having somebody move then and you were making a profit to do that

California's one of the most regulated states in United States as far as real estate

if you have a real estate license you can do whatever you want acting as a principal whether it be a lease option or wrap or subject to

Post: San Fernando Valley Meetup

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@Sebastia H.

I'll be there and I'm happy to share my knowledge about lease  options, Dodd Frank compliance,  seller financing , etc in California

Post: subject to

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Lee do you think that if you flip a subject to deal and it goes south and the person that you sold it to does not pay the underlying lien you're not gonna be liable?

You were in the chain of title and that seller can bring you to court

When I teach subject to deals the exit is always lease to own with that subject to loan is going to be paid off in 1 to 2 years

I am not going to have somebody take over my subject to deal for a fee

The other thing about subject to is I always give a warranty deed in escrow from me to the seller in case I default on paying the loan PITI, protecting the seller and getting the house deed back

Post: Getting Busted in Ohio for Wholesaling and Praticing RE without a License

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Another confusing aspect of 

Oh my God 

if I get a license I'm going to have a fiduciary duty to do what's best for the seller

The amazing thing to me with new people you just have to remember that the real state boards of the states they just want you to be trained enough, to know enough,when you're talking to a seller that you've had some training

And if you're bad person lying to people they can take the license away from you

My attorney in California basically said if you have a real estate sales license you basically have been granted a limited power to act as a real estate attorney in creating agreements

Acting as a principal in transactions for profit and being licensed as a sales agent is the way to go to be able to do anything you want real estate

Post: Getting Busted in Ohio for Wholesaling and Praticing RE without a License

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@Jim Means

Study Texas definitions or what real estate activities as a licensee

If you buy a property as a principal you don't need a license but to do everything in real estate like wholesaling with an option contract and selling it you need a license because you're brokering and "acting agent for"

Again if you take title to a property and resell it you don't need a license

You might have a problem with taxation with  dealer status

Post: subject to

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Originally posted by @Lee S.:

I've not seen the answer to this question and i'm hoping someone can help.  I understand subject to and roughly how to handle a deal like that.  What I don't understand is how to handle a subject to deal where the price agreed upon does not match what is owed on the loans you are taking subject to?

Example, (these are made up numbers):  House worth 200k, current loan on house is 80k and I have an agreement with seller for 115k.  They are willing to do subject to on the 80k.  What options are there to deal with the other 35k?  Do you make a note?  Cash?  

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Hi Lee

I have many videos re sub 2 and land trusts on http://www.biggerpockets.com/blogs/3-reiskills-and-brian-gibbons

I look for sub2 home sellers that want to allow those payments to be taken over by someone who will make those payments on time 

and to give them a note that is beneficial for me on the lease to own arrangement exit strategy

say market rent is 1500 

I want to pay no more than $1000 a month on all payments, sub2 and note

You have to be creative creating the note 

you can have a moratorium on payments which are no payments for a period of time, interest only, no payments for a year, etc

Make the deal work for you

Post: Getting Busted in Ohio for Wholesaling and Praticing RE without a License

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For the curious about California and acting as an agent 

http://secure.dre.ca.gov/publicasp/unlicenseddnr.asp

Post: Getting Busted in Ohio for Wholesaling and Praticing RE without a License

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Home Licensees DisciplinaryActions

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ACTIONS TAKEN AGAINST A LICENSED OR UNLICENSED PERSON/ENTITY FOR LOAN MODIFICATION ACTIVITIES

View the list of persons and entities that have been served with a Desist and Refrain Order and/or Accusation by the Bureau of Real Estate resulting from a loan modification and/or foreclosure rescue transaction.

ACTIONS TAKEN AGAINST A LICENSED OR UNLICENSED PERSON/ENTITY FOR SHORT SALE TRANSACTIONS

View the list of persons and entities that have been served with a Desist and Refrain Order and/or Accusation by the Bureau of Real Estate for unlicensed or unlawful acts in connection with short sale transactions.

ACTIONS TAKEN AGAINST UNLICENSED REAL ESTATE ACTIVITIES

View the Unlicensed Activities listing of persons or entities that have been issued a Desist and Refrain Order for conducting real estate activity without being properly licensed. Use our Real Estate License Look-Up system if you are uncertain about whether a person or entity is licensed.

View the Citations Issued for Unlicensed Activity to persons or entities for conducting real estate activity without being properly licensed. Use our Real Estate License Look-Up system if you are uncertain about whether a person or entity is licensed.

ACTIONS TAKEN AGAINST COURSE PROVIDERS

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ACTIONS TAKEN AGAINST SUBDIVISION VIOLATIONS

View the Subdivision Violations listing of persons or entities that have been issued a Desist and Refrain Order for a violation of the Subdivided Lands Act. To ascertain if the violation(s) has been corrected, please contact the appropriate Subdivision Section, Northern California or Southern California.

ACTIONS TAKEN AGAINST UNLICENSED PREPAID RENTAL LISTING SERVICE ACTIVITIES

View the Unlicensed Prepaid Rental Listing Service Activities listing of persons or entities that have been issued a Desist and Refrain Order. If further information about a Prepaid Rental Listing Service Company is required, please check with the nearest CalBRE Enforcement Office.

NOTICES OF INTENTION TO ISSUE BAR ORDERS AND BAR ORDERS

View the list of persons and entities that have been barred by the Bureau of Real Estate from engaging in activities subject to regulation under the Real Estate Law and/or other specified real estate related activities.

SUMMARY OF ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS

View monthly summaries of enforcement actions issued by the Bureau of Real Estate against licensed and unlicensed individuals. Summaries include disciplinary actions initiated against real estate licensees; orders to desist and refrain from unlawful activities; decisions on petition applications to reinstate/remove restrictions from licensees; applications for licenses that have been denied and/or were issued restricted licenses; and licenses that have been voluntarily surrendered.

Post: Getting Busted in Ohio for Wholesaling and Praticing RE without a License

Brian GibbonsPosted
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Study your laws what define agent activities

Google 

department of real estate California real estate agent activities

If you take title on a wrap and sell the property once you have title (aka AITDs) then on sell it that is different than an option

Big thing is have legal title and act as a principal

Post: Getting Busted in Ohio for Wholesaling and Praticing RE without a License

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Wow this is interesting reaction from everybody more than the "due on sale clause sub2" thread! 

There's so many articles on BiggerPockets about wholesaling and I bet you if you asked 100 of them what wholesaling meant, you get 10 different definitions

If you buy hundred thousand dollar property and close on it and get title now you own it, you can do whatever you want with it

If you option a hundred thousand dollar house or get a sale and purchase agreement with "and/or assigns" at the top of the agreement, you don't own anything, and the courts look at that as operating "agent for"

Have a title of something whether it's on a wrap or subject to or installment sale has real title.

Everyone is so afraid of having a real estate license that they'll be told what they can and  can't do

As long as you disclose to the seller that  you're a licensed agent and you're acting as a business person to make a profit as a principal in a transaction you were good to go to negotiate your best deal

Then you can write an option agreement and sell it, then you can enter into a lease and option is a principal and sell it, If you're licensed.