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All Forum Posts by: Rhondalette W.

Rhondalette W. has started 20 posts and replied 352 times.

Post: $3500 Earnest Money Counter Offer?

Rhondalette W.Posted
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 517
  • Votes 106
Originally posted by @Andrew Syrios:

In all likelihood they got burned before by some buyer who got the property and then backed out. Or maybe they're just a nervous nelly. If you back out during the inspection period (which they want to be only 7 days, so you need to get on it if you go for this) you'll still get your emd back. And yes, the earnest money is applied to the purchase price.

 Andrew, I like your term "nervous nelly" you are probably right about them being burned. My realtor tells me that the sellers first chose a cash offer that fell through and my offer was the 2nd choice so they countered back with in increase in earnest money with a shorter option period. 

Post: $3500 Earnest Money Counter Offer?

Rhondalette W.Posted
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 517
  • Votes 106
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

@Rhondalette W.

With our market being as hot as it is, you should expect to pay fairly high earnest money deposits.  People are trying to "wholesale" listed properties.  Agents and sellers do not like it.

Short version... if you are going to be able to close in 30 days as an investor they believe you should have $3500.  If you said anything longer than 30 days, they will not take you serious.

You should expect all of the earnest money to be applied toward the property price.  The option money on the other hand may or may not go toward the price.

 Michael you are right the Texas market is hot right now. You make a very good point about people trying to wholesale here in Dallas TX. Thanks, this is starting to make more sense now...

Post: $3500 Earnest Money Counter Offer?

Rhondalette W.Posted
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 517
  • Votes 106
Originally posted by @Greg H.:

EM could still be refundable after the option period expires if there is a financing contingency

 Greg, thanks that is an important detail and good to know.  

Post: $3500 Earnest Money Counter Offer?

Rhondalette W.Posted
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 517
  • Votes 106
Originally posted by @Brandon Richards:

Emd is refundable, option money is not. Why they would want a higher earnest is beyond me, be cause buyer can get that back if they bail. Option isa guarantee for the seller and isn't refundable

Brandon, it is good to hear from someone in Texas. I was thinking the exact same thing. Why would they want a higher earnest money when that money doesn't help them or go into their pocket? Strange negotiations here but after reading all of your posts it seems that offering a higher EMD does not hurt me since it is refundable and goes toward lowing the amount t(hat I need to bring to closing (ie, subtracted from my 20% down).

Post: $3500 Earnest Money Counter Offer?

Rhondalette W.Posted
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 517
  • Votes 106
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Rhondalette W.  as @Chris Mason states Texas is its own animal the way they do things.. I was surprised as well.. we have bought 500k deals with 100 dollar options... its SOP in that area to get a free 10 day look unless you consider 100 option fee not free.. then you go hard with whatever EM is negotiated between the seller and buyer.

one thing I can think of is the seller does not want a wholesaler tying up the property for 100 bucks.

Or the seller is unaware of Texas customs...

In our area EM tend to be low as well although that is starting to change.. I would often see 500 and 1000 EM on 200 to 250 deals... and on my new construction we get 1% now a days and get some push back from that.

If you want a hot property though you need to lead with big EM  when I first came to Oregon I can't tell you how many deals I beat the locals out of because they were used to 500 and 1000 dollar EM and would offer 5k that was mid 90s or even better they only wanted to put up a EM NOTE... which I will not accept under any condition personally.

Jay, thank you for helping me understand how EMD have worked for you in the past. I have never thought that someone could offer to put up an EM NOTE (Wow!) that is so creative. It is also interesting to know that sometimes you use the EMD to beat out other offers. Thank you for helping me think more creatively about the buying process. Now, don't feel so bad about the counter offer we have received.

Post: $3500 Earnest Money Counter Offer?

Rhondalette W.Posted
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 517
  • Votes 106
Originally posted by @Brie Schmidt:

Every area is different.  In mine $5k is low and I have had to put $20k EM on a $325k purchase.  So that might be normal in your area

Wow Brie @ putting $20K in EM in your area that seems like a lot. When I purchased my first property the realtor automatically suggested $1000 EMD and the sellers accepted therefore all offers after that I have been using $1000 EMD so I just thought that was the "norm".

Post: $3500 Earnest Money Counter Offer?

Rhondalette W.Posted
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 517
  • Votes 106
Originally posted by @Samantha Klein:

I'm not in TX but it would generally benefit the seller to have a higher earnest money dep because then they feel your offer is stronger than someone who is only putting down 1k in EMD. The EMD will then be subtracted from what you need to bring to closing for example, if you're putting 20K down, you only need 16.5K at closing because the other $3,500 will be in escrow to be applied at closing.

Samantha, thanks for explaining that the EMD is indeed subtracted from the 20% down. I was thinking that this was in addition to the 20%.

Post: $3500 Earnest Money Counter Offer?

Rhondalette W.Posted
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 517
  • Votes 106

Chris I guess things are very different in California. Would be nice to insight from investors in my area. 

Thanks

Post: $3500 Earnest Money Counter Offer?

Rhondalette W.Posted
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 517
  • Votes 106

Hey BP, I made an offer on a SFR potential rental property for $104K in my offer I suggested $100 option fee for 10 days and $1000 earnest money. They countered back with same price $104K but wanted $3500 earnest money and only 7 days option period. Why would the sellers want so much in earnest money? How does this benefit them? Will the full amount of the earnest money be applied to the price of the home? I am confused...

Can any of you explain earnest money and the related rules?

Post: Dallas bathroom /kitchen remodel

Rhondalette W.Posted
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 517
  • Votes 106

Hey Alicia, did you complete your remodel? I am in Dallas too and have a remodel. Who did you use?  Were you pleased with the work?