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All Forum Posts by: Robert Ellis

Robert Ellis has started 340 posts and replied 3219 times.

Post: Home run deal. Need help!

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Originally posted by @Eugene Asare:

Hello everyone,

Last weekend by sheer luck an amazing deal fell into my arms. My very close friend informed me that his mom (recently divorced) is looking to sell her home in Columbus, Ohio and relocate. The house is 2500+ sq ft and was built just a decade ago. The house is in a great neighborhood and needs new a garage door, new carpet, and paint. The home is easily worth 220k+. I can purchase it for 135k-140k, due to her current circumstances and the fact that her son is one of my best friends. I don't have that amount of money in cash. I do have a 700+ credit score and can get an FHA loan through a local bank, but the process will probably take longer than she is willing to wait (~3 weeks). I am looking for some advice and guidance from all you clever investors. I don't want to lose this deal because of funding. Should I look for local cash buyer to partner with? If so what is the best way to go about it since I am not suppose to do so on here?

Thanks, 

-Eugene

I'd treat it like any other property. Walk through it, do your due diligence, figure out financing, write an offer, set a closing date. If you only have FHA financing then write in a 45 day close and see if she's willing to accept or not. If she's not then you need to move to a different type of financing obviously. But due some due diligence first. Get actuals of what the home is worth. Comparables, etc.

Post: Wholesaling Columbus, Ohio

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Originally posted by @Luis Lozada:

Hi,

I'm a newbie trying to learn as much as I can on wholesaling and dive in. I live in the Toledo area but don't want to really invest in this market, I'm from Michigan so I was going to focus on finding deals there but I am also interested in the Columbus area. If there are any wholesalers or anyone with knowledge of the Columbus area I could link up with please PM me or point me in their direction it would be much appreciated.

 Do you have any trips planned to columbus? I'd be happy to connect. I'm local here. 

Post: Why to avoid < 50 k properties

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Originally posted by @David Song:

Jd Martin

I do not believe one strategy fits all.

However, REI is all about location, even within a small area, in my view.

Actually, I lived in Midwest for about 5 years. Columbus, oh.

Looking at the RE prices in Columbus, the sub 50 k properties are all in pretty rough areas.

Around OSU, price/sf is around $150-200/sf now. There is no more bargain left.

East of highway 70, the prices drop to < 50k in many occasions. But I know that area well. That used to be a war zone.

Five years ago, if you invested around the university, you win big. If you invested east of 70, your profit is less.

Therefore, there is nothing about ca versus other states. Every state has its own regional characters and investment strategies.

Even in Tennessee, the current prices have rebounded quite a bit.

I do not know which town you invest, but if you can find <50 k properties, with cap rate (not gross rent) above 10%, that will be a nice find.

Even in Texas, the available commercial properties are only around 8% cap, some even 6%.

That is really not that higher than ca.

 I'd even argue the guys who invested in 2000-2004 and 2009-2012 are really the winners, not just 5 years ago. big portfolios were built back then, not a lot now. 

Post: Young investor, Airbnb to REI

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Originally posted by @Charles Hawkins:

I'm stationed in Columbus Ohio and I currently rent 4 Airbnb's. I've been doing this for about a year and have managed to save up while in school and working full time while maintaining 4 Airbnb's. As I rent I realize I am losing money and want to transition to owning and starting with a duplex or triplex. I'm looking for any kind of advice or guidance to get started!

 Hi Charles, ill send you a PM. coming from someone who ran my own airbnb even out of a duplex it is more management intensive than owning rentals. it's great the experience you have. what part of town are your airbnbs located?

Post: In your backyard, or out of state? Should I move?

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Originally posted by @Matthew Lewis:

I'm looking for feedback/opinions on the question of getting started in multi family (and I'm targeting 5 - 10 units for a first property), and starting locally or going to a "hot" market. 

I've seen the short lists that seem to all include Indianapolis, Columbus, Louisville, etc and I've heard the buzz, such as "anywhere in Ohio!". 

I understand the value plays and good cap rates available in those places. I've looked up employment numbers, population trends, per capita incomes, median home prices and see how good they are in Indy and Columbus. 

But, for example, have you looked at the map on Joe Fairless's podcast site showing the locations of all the people he has interviewed? Scroll to the bottom of any podcast page and you will find it. Sure, he has interviewed successful investors in Indianapolis, but also Myrtle Beach, Boise and Flagstaff. 

Have you ever looked up employment and per capita incomes for Grays Harbor, Washington? 

I have investable funds and happen to be in a position to relocate - I could go to Indianapolis or Columbus and stay a few years. Where I am now, western Colorado, is a little dry in terms of loopnet, etc., but of course there are multi family properties around. 

Is it too easy to be seduced by the hot markets, or believe that they are where you've got to be, or should I start where I am and do the digging to come up with one or two opportunities?

 I'm a huge fan of macroeconomics for markets to consider. We've met with investors from all over the country and many of them give Columbus a reason to invest because they call them "lifestyle markets" where demand for apartments outstrips supply, there is long-term upside potential and economic growth, and they can achieve market penetration (buy several hundred units). 

Post: Thoughts on a purchase of a home with an accessory dwelling unit

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Originally posted by @Chris Jargens:

Hi all,

Long time reader but I haven't had anything to really post about but now I'm thinking about moving forward more into real estate outside of just owning a property to live in.

I currently own half of a duplex that I've been living in for seven years. My neighbor rents his side out. Both of these properties are in a very walkable urban area of Columbus, OH. I currently have a $1500 mortgage and my unit would rent for about 2200/month. I really want to invest in a duplex building, live in one half and rent out the other side. I can know that being a landlord can be time consuming and I'm trying to make the process as efficient as possible. I just don't want to get in over my head. However, these type of properties rarely come up on the market in the area I live in. Recently, I spoke to my realtor about a home that was being built for 650K about a 2 minute drive from my current home that will include a ADU (450 sq ft) that has a kitchen and bath. It should meet all the zoning requirements to rent out. It would probably rent for 1000-1100. My mortgage on this place would be about 2800/month including taxes and insurance based on the downpayment I can afford.

My question is would this property be worth it? Also, would it be a better idea to keep my current place and rent it as well or sell it? I have about 160K of equity in my current home. I don't relish the idea of managing my current home as well but I don't know if its a good idea to sell. It has increased in value about 5% per year over the last 7 years.

 Coming from someone who owned an Airbnb and cash flowed with a high mortgage like this as well, it's a lot easier to cash out and get a duplex that you can live in and rent out the other. Mine was in German Village. Also an urban neighborhood of columbus. I took the steps to sell it, get the equity, do a 1031 exchange and move into the new property without paying tax. Great time to sell as well. there are condos in German Village going for over $350 a foot right now. Can't believe it. 

Post: From 25k-2.4 million !

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Originally posted by @Nicholas Weckstein:

Gurjeet Singh all great suggestions. Thank you. I find myself doing this for some of the areas I'm looking to invest in.

Another issue I see is that, and as I said in another of my very recent posts. For me I have to use commercial financing because my DTI ratio is too high. When buying a commercial property I feel that values won't be as high as u may want them. After all it's mainly just investors who buy those and we all want to pay as little as possible. Where as with a single family you may get a price over listing value. People fall in love with a SFH.

All things to think about. I'd like to invest In some areas such as Fort Worth TX, Nevada, VA beach, Columbus OH, Tampa FL. But are just to far from where I live that I wouldn't feel comfortable.

 do you own any assets in Cbus / central oh already?

Post: What is the average cost of Property Manager in Central Ohio?

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So many different options. I would say typical is 8%-12%. Some have hidden fees like full month lease up fees and release up fees if tenants renew their lease. I'd ask them for a historical P&L of someone that has operated a property with them and show them all of the fees that that person has incurred over the trailing 24-36 months. Lots of great property managers out there. Depends on the area. I'd find someone local. In columbus, there is a huge difference between a duplex on OSU campus and a 4 unit in Whitehall. 2 different property mangers in my opinion. 

Post: Second deal- needs roof

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Originally posted by @Robert Hudson:

@Robert Ellis Why would you ask for seller concessions when it should have been obvious the roof needed replacing when the offer was made? Making an offer when you know that you will later try to knock the price down further after the contract is signed is unethical.

 Isn't that what a request to remedy period is? If these issues came up DURING an inspection than it makes sense to ask them of the seller. It's not unethical it's practiced in 90% of real estate transactions. If you know of the issues up front, then potentially there could be another question for Robert but he didn't give us enough information. 

Post: Rehab with multiple contractors?

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Originally posted by @Nate Crowley:

Interested in getting quotes for a sfh rehab in the Columbus area, but not sure if I should be getting quotes for each item on my to do list or if I should have it quoted as a package and hire one GC. My thought is that working with one company would be easiest, but not sure if that's always the most cost effective option. What's your experience?

 From my experience here locally in cbus / central ohio doing it subcontractor is the best way. time and time again it has proven that way. Find the concrete guy, the tree guy, the sheetrock / drywall guy, the tile guy, etc. I have a client that built a carriage house in a historic neighborhood called victorian village. and he did it for less than $50k when he had quotes well into the $125k range. Only you knows whether price or having one person is more important.