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All Forum Posts by: Sean Constable

Sean Constable has started 1 posts and replied 33 times.

Post: What to do with a partnership upon death?

Sean Constable
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  • Attorney
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 20

@Amanda Bodine the LLC could own life insurance on the members and the death benefit could be used. Parents age/health could make premiums expensive. There should be an operating agreement which spells out exactly how its done

Post: What do investors do when they have multiple properties? Multiple LLCs?

Sean Constable
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  • Attorney
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 20
Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Kevin Alvarado:

What do investors do when they have multiple properties? For example, 15 different properties for rentals. Do they just create 15 different LLCs? For fix and flip, that would be a separate LLC too? Any clarification would be great. Thanks!


Entity structure for rental is vastly different than entity structure/purposes for flipping. 

First off, for flipping you may need to side step a seasoning requirement, so your selling the ownership interest not the property. 

My CPA, attorney and I laugh all the time at the avalanche of people who think just having an LLC give them any form of protections, in the vast majority of cases it's pointless. According to my attorney and CPA about 99% of the time, the say very-very few actually operate the multi-entities in a correct manner.

For example, in MN the Secretary of State CLEARLY states when filling a new LLC that a single-member LLC is legally a disregarded entity in MN. That means does-not-exist. So a person could have 63 single-member LLC's in Mn and you get sued guess what, EVEYRTHING is getting attached. And a lot of states have same/similar.

Next we have comingling of funds, do that everything that $ touched is joined. It's actually very simple on how full separation works, they have to be FULLY separated. 

So what does the smart person do? Smartest I have seen for rentals is a trust owned all the properties BUT it ONLY did B2B business. The trust leased properties with right's to sublet to an LLC. That LLC operated the property as a rental. So that LLC actually had no asset's itself, and limited funds because it's landlord was sucking up the sizable chunk of it's revenues. So if sued, a person could go after it's retained earnings. The property was owned by a completely different entity who had nothing to do with the situation because in their NNN lease it covers liability and property upkeep on that LLC.

Simple. 

**** NOT legal advice just sharing experiences and stories of observations****

 @James Hamling “disregarded” does not mean that the entity and its protections are disregarded with then having personal responsibility.  “Disreharded” in SMLLC context means that income and losses flow straight through to the single member.

Post: Trying to make something work in New York City

Sean Constable
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  • Attorney
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 20

Careful where you look - parts of Rockaway can be rough.  We have a house (not a rental) in the belle harbor section and that’s very nice and residential and $$$.  Typically the lower the street numbers the rougher the area.  It’s a shame because the beaches are great.

Post: Commercial building missing lease

Sean Constable
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  • Attorney
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 20

Don’t inherit someone else’s eviction.  Insist on lease or property being vacant from month to month tenants.  You can always sign the tenant under your lease which you dictate.  Congrats on 1st commercial property and good luck!

Post: LLC information, setting up an LLC

Sean Constable
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  • Attorney
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 20

Pennywise pound foolish for the cost of an umbrella policy.  And not “stories” but cases and claims I have tried and settled.  

Post: LLC information, setting up an LLC

Sean Constable
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  • Attorney
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 20

So I agree with 90% of what you said about LLCs.  The one area I take issue with and maybe bc I am in NY and used to work in personal injury litigation is your comment about $300k liability insurance.  One fall with surgery or worse and that amount isn’t enough in NY and I’m sure other areas.  Always have at least a $1 mil umbrella policy on top

Post: LLC information, setting up an LLC

Sean Constable
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  • Attorney
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 20
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @John Grinston:

Hi team, I purchased my home in 2018 and it will soon be my first rental property. I would like to manage my property and future investment properties under an LLC. I've looked into different websites such as Zenbusiness but would rather use an attorney. Who do you all use ?


An LLC is useful for two things: anonymity and legal protection. In most cases, neither is warranted.

Warning: I am not an attorney and this can be a complicated topic. Please note the information provided below is a layman's definition designed to provide a basic understanding for the general audience. You should consult an attorney or CPA for your specific situation.

ANONYMITY: When you create the LLC, your name is recorded on the documents and published on the Secretary of State website for all to see. So you're not completely anonymous. If you want to be completely anonymous, you can use a Registered Agent. The Registered Agent will record the documents on your behalf so only their name and information appears on the documents. I've done this with my properties because I'm well known in my small town and don't want people to know what I own.

LEGAL PROTECTION: By placing your assets in an LLC, you are legally separating them from your personal assets. If someone injures themselves and sues, they will be suing the LLC and not you personally. If your insurance coverage isn't enough, they could seize the LLC assets, but not your personal assets.

Additional thoughts:

1. An LLC is not free. You can spend as little as $100 to form an LLC, or you could use an attorney and spend $1,000 or more. There are also additional costs of operating and maintaining an LLC, like separate bank accounts, annual report filings, tax filings, etc.

2. There are rules to follow! If you fail to follow the rules, you may open your personal assets to a lawsuit. An example of this would be mixing your personal money and LLC money in the same bank account.

3. You do not need a separate LLC for each property or a series LLC! Don't make your life more complicated than it has to be. Most professionals will recommend a separate LLC for every $1 million in assets but I don't think that's necessary. In my case, I have residential rentals in one LLC, commercial properties in another, self storage in a third, and my real estate company operates in a fourth. Some have more than $1 million in equity while others have less.

4. The need for an LLC is grossly exaggerated on BiggerPockets and other websites. Have you ever heard of a Landlord being sued by a Tenant and losing property? I've been on this board since 2010 and haven't found an example yet. You've probably heard of big Landlords losing property, but only because they were flagrantly violating Fair Housing, running a slum, or otherwise violating the law in an egregious manner. You are more likely to be struck by lightning twice. The vast majority of lawsuits against Landlords are for wrongful eviction, security deposit disputes, and Fair Housing Violations. Your basic insurance policy with $300,000 in liability coverage should be sufficient in 99.999% of all lawsuits.

5. The best protection for you and your investments? Know and obey the law. I manage around 400 rentals with 12 years experience and have never been sued once. Even if I were sued, I document everything and obey the law, so I won't be found guilty. Even if I were found guilty, the cost would be in the thousands, not in the millions. Insurance would cover it, I would pay the deductible, and no assets would be lost.

If you are in an area like San Diego where people are more likely to sue, a judge is more likely to find you guilty, and the payout is likely to be higher, then you may consider an umbrella insurance policy. This policy will provide additional coverage above what your existing policy covers. It's easy to obtain, costs very little, and doesn't require additional, on-going effort to maintain.


Post: Under contract and Seller don’t want to close

Sean Constable
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  • Attorney
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 20

NY real estate attorney here and @Tim Delaney is essentially right.  Contract closing dates are not dates certain.  After 30 days or so your attorney can send the seller a “time of the essence letter” which will set a definite closing date.  If seller doesn’t close at that time then you have to bring a lawsuit.  The remedy as a buyer is forcing them to sell.  Speak with your attorney and he/she should be able to explain how it works in light of your specific deal.

Post: ONE LLC OR A DIFFERENT LLC FOR EACH PROPERTY

Sean Constable
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  • Attorney
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 20

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Post: ONE LLC OR A DIFFERENT LLC FOR EACH PROPERTY

Sean Constable
Posted
  • Attorney
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 20

@Mark A Powell see you are in OH. If that is where you invest you should look into forming a series LLC (basically sub llcs under one master llc) which I believe are allowed in OH. I am not licensed in OH but will be glad to get you a referral