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All Forum Posts by: Scott Johnson

Scott Johnson has started 47 posts and replied 611 times.

Post: How to analyze a buyers/sellers market

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Quote from @Jon Kelly:

@Blake Ramsey I don't think asking Buyers/Sellers market helps you in any way. You can find or create deals in any market. You'll end up doing a lot of research and it doesn't really help you (unless you're a real estate agent). 

You're doing the right thing by analyzing properties. How many have you analyzed? If often takes a while to find a good deal. 


This is the correct answer.

You're worrying about what you can't control (the market). You're on the road to "analysis paralysis" and never "finding the right time to buy." Analyze one property and figure out if it's a good deal or trash. The larger market comes into play, but at this point in your education, you need focus. Start with one investment property and post the analysis here. Then you can continue responding to responses on this post ;-) 

If you need help, ask for it here

Post: Where to park savings?

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Quote from @Juan Campos:

Hey guys, so I'm saving to invest in my first home here in the next 10 months, I was thinking putting my savings in the bank doesn't do me any good, maybe for liquidity and stability

However 10 months is a while and so I was wondering.

Where do you guys park your savings?

Cd?

Bank?

Index funds ?

Thanks in advance

Alright, so just to clarify, you're investing in a "home", not a "rental property", correct? The former is not an investment. The down payment you put down is essentially an asset, but not by Robert Kiyosaki's definition which is what I follow.

Since we're talking about parking money to buy a home you'll live in, I agree with @Will Kenner. I will note that there's no stability with parking cash in the current environment, but like Robert says: savers are losers, but if you don't have the education to make your money grow, it's better than nothing.

Post: Working with a realtor

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Quote from @Myles Kamara:

I'm currently working with a realtor on a property that I'm planing on wholesaling and wanted to get opinions and advice on how I should proceed. I've done my research on how one can work with a realtor but since this is my first time and potentially first deal I wanted to reach out to hear the opinions and advice form other who either have done it before or are realtors themselves. My biggest concern is honestly finding cash buyers who would be interested in buying a property that's on market since I know most buyers target off-market properties. Thanks for the feed back!


From what I can tell, you're trying to make a deal work. Learn how to find off-market properties first. I'm not saying you'll never find something on the MLS that you can wholesale, but if you can find it everyone else can find it. And if you're the offer that's accepted, why weren't the other buyers offers accepted? Maybe they didn't offer high enough, which leaves you holding the bag. 

Too much risk for me.

Post: LLC for Wholesale Double Close

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Quote from @Will Barnard:
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Quote from @Tom Gimer:

@Scott Johnson What @Will Barnard means is there is no need for an A-->B closing and a B-->C closing (and in the process incurring 2 sets of closing costs and recording 2 deeds), which is the standard double close scenario. 

Instead, you can do an A-->B closing where B is an entity formed specifically for this purpose. Either prior to or simultaneously with the acquisition by B, the end buyer becomes the 100% owner of B. There is no assignment of the original contract and only one deed gets recorded.


I may be a bit confused. Is "B" in the second scenario "C" in the first scenario?

Tom answered your question correctly on my behalf. A = Seller B= Wholesaler/buyer C = End buyer. So with a double close, you have seller A contracting with wholesaler B and then wholesaler B selling to investor buyer C. If you have buyer C lined up in advance, creating a single purpose entity or trust to make the offer in the name of the entity/trust from You (party B) to seller (party A). Then at the closing table, you already have buyer C in hand who is named as owner of the entity (or beneficiary of the trust) and you sell your position in the entity (or assign new trustee in the trust) for your wholesale fee. No double closing with two closing costs needed.

Okay, I follow you now. It's brilliant, but my question is, Do I need a separate corporate attorney to handle the interest transfer part of it? I guess that's more of an attorney question. 

I see the risk in the cost of forming the entity, but that's not a lot here in NC. Also, I have to make sure the buyer will play ball with the new corporate entity. Sounds like a play that would be used with purchases of larger properties instead of SFRs, since single properties aren't always put into a corporation. The trust would make far more sense for single properties, depending on the fees. 

So I guess I'd just have a trust on stand-by (with whatever minimal requirements are required for a trust), Make an offer on behalf of that trust to the seller, and after closing sell my interest in said trust to the buyer. Or do you get it under contract with the name of a trust that doesn't necessarily exist at the time of signing and form it right after signing? The method is sound, but the execution is scrambling my brain. It's likely my lack of understanding of how trusts work, so back to the legislation I go. 

It doesn't sound like something I would necessarily use for a normal wholesale, but definitely something to consider if the person I'm buying it from insists on assignments not being allowed.

Post: how to invest in 1st property

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Quote from @Colton Hahn:

Hey Juan, Welcome! What I would do is begin by immersing yourself in as much knowledge as you possibly can. Look up videos and podcasts about real estate investing. I would urge anyone and everyone to learn as much as possible before jumping into an investment. Remember, the person who knows the most is most likely to come out on top. 


100% Agree! While a lot of people want to "jump in" and get going with real estate investment it's critical that you take a step back, educate yourself, start developing a team (broker, hard money, lender, etc...) , and work for free for some local investors. That'll skyrocket your learning experience.

Post: Is it possible to invest while being a merchant Mariner

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Quote from @Ziad Hamati:

I am investing out of state, so technically I am never "there". 

Find a market that you know (probably your backyard). Find an agent who works with investors. Find your property. Then interview as many property managers as possible because THEY WILL BE KEY TO YOUR SUCCESS. That PM will either make or break your business. 

Good luck


Agreed. I've also heard a lot of advertisements for companies that will allow you to buy what seem to be "shares" in larger properties or even e-buy an entire property that's turn-key and comes pre-managed. Wish I had some names to give you, but this is just to get your wheels turning. 

Post: 1031 Exchange/LLC/Quit Claim Deed

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Quote from @Greg Scott:

You should talk to a qualified intermediary ASAP.  They can adequately guide you on the steps you need to take and the timing.  


 Yea, this is my answer as well. Best of luck to you, sir! I hope everything goes well!

Post: Physical Therapist with 30k for first investment!!!!

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Also, run numbers on new construction 2-4 units and having one built. You still get a traditional loan with these and may be able to find a land more easily than one of these units. Here in my area, there's pretty much none, so we're looking into this.

Post: LLC for Wholesale Double Close

Scott Johnson
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Quote from @Tom Gimer:

@Scott Johnson What @Will Barnard means is there is no need for an A-->B closing and a B-->C closing (and in the process incurring 2 sets of closing costs and recording 2 deeds), which is the standard double close scenario. 

Instead, you can do an A-->B closing where B is an entity formed specifically for this purpose. Either prior to or simultaneously with the acquisition by B, the end buyer becomes the 100% owner of B. There is no assignment of the original contract and only one deed gets recorded.


I may be a bit confused. Is "B" in the second scenario "C" in the first scenario?

Post: LLC for Wholesale Double Close

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@Will Barnard, if you could elaborate more on your statement, "...double closing is NOT the only way to get around a no assignment clause so that statement is incorrect." it would be much appreciated. Always looking for more tools to add to my tool belt. 

Agreed. Daisy chaining is an amateur practice and rarely ends well. 

I think the biggest concept outlined here is to understand the law. I went as far as to read NCREC rules and regulations, contact them to confirm my practices were solid, and read relevant legislation passed by our general assembly. Always operate within the law and be honest with people you're working with/clients.