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All Forum Posts by: Sean Smith

Sean Smith has started 2 posts and replied 93 times.

Post: Need Advice on purchasing first multifamily for profit in Pacific Northwest

Sean SmithPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 96
  • Votes 78
Quote from @Joey Klusmann:

My girlfriend and I have been exploring the idea of purchasing a multi-family property as our first investment, in addition to owning our primary residence. We're based in the Pacific Northwest and have primarily focused our search in this region.

One of the main challenges we've encountered is that multi-family properties tend to be quite expensive—typically starting in the mid-$500,000s and up. When we compare the mortgage costs to the average rental income in these areas, the numbers often don’t support positive cash flow.

We've considered purchasing an investment property without living in it, but that would require a 20% down payment. Alternatively, if we were to move into the property and live there for at least a year, we could qualify for a 3.5% down payment. However, the resulting mortgage would be significantly higher, and it’s unlikely we could charge enough rent to cover it.

We have a few questions:

1. Is a HELOC the best way to access cash for purchasing an investment property, or are there better alternatives?

2. Are there any loan options that allow for a low percentage down payment on an investment property if we don’t plan to live in it?

3. Is there anyone familiar with the Pacific Northwest market who can offer tips or advice on finding cash-flow-positive properties?

     Hey @Joey Klusmann jumping in to the PNW real estate game is exciting! I'm very familiar with the major WA markets but less so the OR markets.

    To answer your questions:

    1. Is a HELOC the best way to access cash for purchasing an investment property, or are there better alternatives?

    You can absolutely use a HELOC to access capital, though it comes at a cost and may further hurt your already tight cashflow numbers. It doesn't hurt to get a HELOC in place now in case you stumble upon a lightning in a bottle opportunity where you need the capital. But I wouldn't call it the most efficient capital.

    2. Are there any loan options that allow for a low percentage down payment on an investment property if we don’t plan to live in it?

    Non-owner occupant multifamily loans are almost always 15% down+. 

    3. Is there anyone familiar with the Pacific Northwest market who can offer tips or advice on finding cash-flow-positive properties?

    I find cashflowing rental properties fairly often here in the PNW. It comes down to your risk tolerance, willingness to live in a unit or not, and where you want to live. This is very much possible. For example I came across a townhouse-style duplex recently with 2 2bed/2ba's in the high 700's. Each unit would rent for 3250+ and would be a decent live-in 3.5% down play. Is this massive cashflow? No. Is there room to budget for maintenance, capex, vacancy, etc? Yes. 

    Unless you're willing to put a substantial amount down (30% or more) or live in one of the units, it's not easy to find cashflow. If it was easy, everyone would be doing it ;)

    Post: Where/How do I start?

    Sean SmithPosted
    • Real Estate Broker
    • Seattle, WA
    • Posts 96
    • Votes 78

    Hi @Daniel Budnik congrats on deciding to start! House hacking is likely your best way to get into the market these days. If you intend to live in the property you can use an FHA loan which only requires 3.5% down ($26,250 using your $750k number above) plus some closing costs. If you go for a multi family you can use the expected income from the other units to help you qualify for higher purchase prices. If you can swing it you should look for something that needs a little work where you can get in at a lower cost basis, build some sweat equity, and benefit from these low down programs.

    My first deal was a live-in renovation. Works great when you're young and don't mind a wild mess of a house for some time. Nowadays the wife and kid make it a little harder to pull that off ;)

    Post: Single family home inspector recommendations

    Sean SmithPosted
    • Real Estate Broker
    • Seattle, WA
    • Posts 96
    • Votes 78

    @Devon Smith I recommend asking your agent/broker for their favorite inspectors - they should have a few. If you still need a great one though, I'd suggest giving Ryan Lepine a call. He is incredibly thorough and to the point. Big fan of his approach. 

    Ryan Lepine - Lepine Home Inspections

    206-235-6919

    Post: Ren Navarro – Emerging Real Estate Developer

    Sean SmithPosted
    • Real Estate Broker
    • Seattle, WA
    • Posts 96
    • Votes 78

    @Ren Navarro welcome to the forums. Development is a hot segment of the market here locally. ADU & DADU plays are becoming increasingly common with the favorable changes to residential zoning. Any specific area you're looking at?

    Post: WA Statewide Rent Control Measure

    Sean SmithPosted
    • Real Estate Broker
    • Seattle, WA
    • Posts 96
    • Votes 78
    Quote from @Brandon Vukelich:

    Hey @Sean Smith, quick correction to this: 

    owner-occupied duplex, triplex, and fourplexes are exempt.

    I attended an RHA event yesterday and both attorneys (Sean Flynn and Chris Cutting) leading the seminar could not confirm this applies to all 2-4 unit properties. The best they could say at this time was that they "may" be exempt. So we can't count on it yet. 

    @Allan C. - you are correct about undisciplined operators (more like older, less proactive owners) will need to discount their properties. Ran numbers on a deal today with rents at $1100 that should be $1500 but now we can't bump more than ~$77/mo. Going to take a long time to get to $1500 so prices MUST start reconciling with our new regs.

    Another terrible part about all of this is notice requirements: certified mail on ALL. 

    Some new laws went into effect May 7 but some are pushed to July 27. But of course with normal terrible new policies there are some overlapping and vague issues that will need to be sorted out. #hotmess


    Thank you for clarifying - this is an important distinction. Owner occupied small-multifamily properties make up a good chunk of the new-investor market. Here's hoping new investors will remain incentivized to jump into the game. Otherwise the 2-4 unit buyer pool may shrink. 

    Post: WA Statewide Rent Control Measure

    Sean SmithPosted
    • Real Estate Broker
    • Seattle, WA
    • Posts 96
    • Votes 78

    @Allan C. no changes were made to lease termination guidelines with EHB 1217 from what I've read

    Post: WA Statewide Rent Control Measure

    Sean SmithPosted
    • Real Estate Broker
    • Seattle, WA
    • Posts 96
    • Votes 78

    @Allan C.

    I agree. I don't think this will have a huge effect on WA investors' portfolios unless they haven't kept up with market rents.

    I've been working in the CA real estate market since 2015 and have seen how new investors can get nervous and give up. This new WA legislation will actually create chances for savvy, experienced investors - especially in the current stage of the economic cycle.

    Good buying opportunities are coming soon.

    Post: Anyone doing Co-Living (Rent by Room) in Washington State?

    Sean SmithPosted
    • Real Estate Broker
    • Seattle, WA
    • Posts 96
    • Votes 78

    @Miller McSwain I have some experience running this strategy here locally in the Seattle Metro, as well as helping a few clients execute this strategy. It's a great market for co-living / rent by the room. Happy to connect anytime and share my learnings.

    Post: Wholesale Properties - Washington State (Snohomish County)

    Sean SmithPosted
    • Real Estate Broker
    • Seattle, WA
    • Posts 96
    • Votes 78

    Hi @Lindsey Waltz I source both on and off-market opportunities for my investors in King, Snohomish, and Pierce counties. Shoot me a message of what you're looking for and I'll keep an eye out.

    Post: Brand new and looking for guidance.

    Sean SmithPosted
    • Real Estate Broker
    • Seattle, WA
    • Posts 96
    • Votes 78

    Of course - I have a few colleagues who do this here in the greater seattle area, happy to make an introduction and you can see if it's a good fit. Will PM you.