All Forum Posts by: Sean Dolan

@Mike G. so far, I can conclude that both will definitely generate a steady flow of leads, just north of $300/lead for the specific keywords we are running (which aren't our cheapest keywords, but they are the higher volume keywords, on average the more costly). I won't know for a couple months how these individual leads pan out into homes sold, which is where the rubber hits the road. My theory is that the quality won't change much between the two because the quality is predicated by keywords they came in on, not the landing page, which is a control across both landing pages. Both landing pages are receiving the exact same set of keywords. 

Also, I have multiple clients generating 7-10 leads some days for motivated sellers in their area, without these sites, so these aren't the only solutions, just the more turn-key solutions, and the most popular in this industry. 

But honestly, for what it's worth, I'd have zero concerns about anyone signing up for Lead Propeller or Investor Carrot at this point (in terms of PPC, I have major issues with the SEO benefits). When we do have a winner between these two landing pages, they will be close, since it's taken weeks and I still don't have a statistical leader. One thing, Lead Propeller does generate more phone calls and Investor Carrot generates more forms filled. Which reminds me that everyone needs to track phone calls in Adwords (PM me if you need a recommendation on call tracking that ties into Adwords). If we weren't tracking phone calls, we would have already incorrectly concluded Investor Carrot as the winner. 

Will keep the community updated on the progress!

@Jeff Filali Sounds good man. Just remember that SEO traffic is not free. If you stop pushing that rock up that hill, someone else will overtake you. Time is money, so you're either spending your time or someone else's time to push that rock up the hill. Any rankings that are easily gotten, are likely worthless. Also, when you know what PPC strategy works best, you've painted your keyword targets for SEO - versus building SEO for a year, and finding out you're ranking for all the wrong terms. Prove it out by renting the terms, then follow through with SEO. Good luck!

@Mark C. How about this, if I don't outperform the other two, I won't charge you. Deal? :)

@Jeff Filali yep, mistyped the domain, sorry about that.

Here's what you're ranking for, based on SEMrush.com data (for the correct Oklahoma domain), this is sorted by your best rankings, so #35 is one of your best. Keep in mind, they are pulling from a list of keywords that are searched often, so the term 'sell my house fast broken arrow' isn't showing, despite you ranking well for it, because there is almost zero traffic for that term. Not saying there is zero (but there might be), just that it isn't even on the radar for this widely-used tool, because it is so rarely searched. 

A big SEO issue you're facing is duplicate content. I grabbed a piece of text from your page and searched it in Google. There are 11,300 other pages with that exact term on it, and probably 95% of your page is duplicated across many of these sites, because you're using the default Investor Carrot site. 

You need to unique this content. Investor Carrot offers this as a service. My advice is that if SEO is part of you strategy, it is a given to unique the content, not an option. If you're only using this site for PPC, the duplicate content isn't an issue. 

The absolute most important variable, after you patch that big hole, is to have links. You don't have any links. If you are doing SEO, or paying someone to do SEO, and they are not generating links, they are wasting your time and money. Period. There's no reputable SEO anywhere that doesn't include links in their strategy. Might as well hire a plumber who doesn't touch pipes, or an exterminator who's afraid of bugs. 

Here's a really good resource for links: http://backlinko.com/link-building

But honestly, doing your own SEO, or doing your own plumbing, or your own roofing, or anything else, is not a long term solution as an investor. You should wait until you can hire a professional. We no longer offer SEO services in-house, but we can refer you or anyone else to someone who's good. 

Ah good, I'm seeing you for broken arrow. I'll take a look tomorrow and see if I can offer some advice. 

@Jeff Filali Also found your Texas homebuyer site: http://www.texcashhomebuyer.com/

Not finding it anywhere for the following searches: 
sell my house fast texas
sell my house fast dallas
sell my house fast houston

Lots of SEOs out there scamming clients, and I just don't want you to be scammed by one of these guys. If there aren't any observable rankings, then there's something fishy about them claiming that leads are coming from SEO. 

Ok, so I found your Oklahoma site: http://www.okcashhomebuyers.com/ and it doesn't rank on the first page for: sell my house fast oklahoma city, in fact I see you at position 34. You don't get organic traffic from ranking #34 - see why I think it's probably branded traffic?

@Jeff Filali Definitely not selling you anything, simply trying to establish credibility for the advice you're giving.  I asked you how you know the difference between branded and non-branded SEO traffic, and you gave a really confusing answer. I suspect you're confusing non-branded SEO traffic with branded traffic. 

From your 4lease4sale site, you state: "If you have a commercial property you’re looking to sell in Oklahoma, Texas or Kansas, in particular the Tulsa, Oklahoma City, DFW, Houston or Wichita area" so if I plug these cities into your keyword variable above, that gives us at least the following terms:

sell my house fast oklahoma city - I can identify everyone on the 1st page, not seeing you there.
sell my house fast kansas - not seeing you there.
sell my house fast tulsa - not seeing you there.
sell my house fast dfw - not seeing you there.

Am I missing something? How can you be ranking for 'most of all the ones you want to' if I can't find a single one? 

Not trying to pick on you here, just trying to make my original point, that you are probably confusing branded traffic as non-branded organic/SEO traffic. 

@Jeff Filali what term do you rank first page for? 

@Jeff Filali SEO ads? Can you do me a favor and look up the definition of SEO and PPC, and then restate your last comment? I think you're misunderstanding those terms.