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All Forum Posts by: Shaun Peterson

Shaun Peterson has started 4 posts and replied 23 times.

Post: Delano Vacant Land Purchase

Shaun PetersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Jeff Seal:

there is a ton of chatter about Delano these days.  Its a very safe investment IMO. 

Houses are way too cheap there. Most run of the mill Wichitans don't believe in the area and think it's absurd. I've seen the same thing happen in Oklahoma City and lots of people missed the bus. Wichita needs steady labor force growth to sustain itself, but as soon as that happens I think the housing stock will revalue drastically and then that's how it will happen.  

Post: Delano Vacant Land Purchase

Shaun PetersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @William Carpenter:

Where at in Delano? Are you planning to hold onto it?

3rd and St Clair. Not in the immediate core, but still within the zone. 

Post: Delano Vacant Land Purchase

Shaun PetersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 7

Investment Info:

Other other investment in Wichita.

Purchase price: $8,000
Cash invested: $8,000

Speculative investment of vacant land in Delano redevelopment area in Wichita urban core.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Long term bet on Wichita urban core redevelopment.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Craigslist. Owner wanted $10K. I offered $8K and they accepted.

How did you finance this deal?

Cash

How did you add value to the deal?

None

What was the outcome?

Still own.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Values aren't quite there to build yet, but are trending upward.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

No.

@Etim Fisk

How's your financing situation? I would BRRR this if possible, versus going in with a bank loan and a "subject to" appraisal. Non-stabilized Properties are really hard to get financing for, unless your global financial picture is solid. If it's not then I would pass, because it could be a trap.

Post: Owner Occupied Purchase and Full Rehab

Shaun PetersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 7

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment in Oklahoma City.

Purchase price: $235,000
Cash invested: $71,750

Full gut and remodel of a primary residence to live in. House was bought due to proximity to downtown, lot size and placement, and neighborhood is extremely desirable. Purchased at a $15,000 discount below appraised value. Houses in close prxomity have sold for substantially more and neighborhood is an area that is in the early stages of gentrification near areas that have already seen steady growth in this area.

Post: Partner Wants to be Exclusive, I Want An Open Relationship

Shaun PetersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 7
Yep. You're right. It's kind of funny as I took a new job with a bank that does plenty of LP and Non-Recourse financing. Just hadn't been exposed to it prior. 

Sorry for the super late reply here.

-Shaun

Originally posted by @Zach Bollman:

@Shaun Peterson I haven't run into bank financing issues, nor have my clients. There is a big caveat to that though, which is that (1) I haven't entered into any LPs myself, and (2) the clients I work with are large real estate investors not using conventional bank financing.

However, I did make loans to LPs as a bank officer prior to practicing law. Based on that experience, I would go out on a limb to guess that most of the concern is a result of either the bank being uncomfortable with lending to an LP if they aren't well-versed in it and thus cannot confidently assess the risk, or (2) banks want personal guarantees from limited or general partners as the investment vehicle is generally single-purpose and would be hard to recover against. The first is a tricky one as it stems from inexperience and you're going to have to assuage those fears. The latter is a bit easier as the general partner could give a personal guarantee and then set up an agreement allowing the general partner to draw capital from the limited partners. Most limited partners won't be happy with that arrangement as they effectively lose their limited partner status from a risk perspective but maintain it from a governance perspective. However, such an arrangement is one of many possible ways to keep the bank happy and comfortable in the loan. There are many ways to resolve the second concern, but they will result from personal guarantees or the internal governance of the LP and should be handled by an attorney familiar with LP investment vehicles and potential securities laws issues. 

Zach

This post is intended to convey general information only and not to provide legal advice or opinions. The contents of this post should not be relied upon for legal or tax advice in any particular circumstance or fact situation. The contents of this post do not establish an attorney-client relationship.

Post: Need some eviction help for the tenant from hell

Shaun PetersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 7
@Bob B. Agree. I wouldn’t even take calls from them either. Just let it go to voicemail, so you have documentation, or correspond over text for same reason. But let your lawyer handle it, if he’s being paid to do so. He’s definitely not going to bill you any less for doing unnecessary work on your own.

Post: Partner Wants to be Exclusive, I Want An Open Relationship

Shaun PetersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 7
@Zach Bollman Have you ever run into issues with bank financing on LP’s? I’ve heard the structure can be problematic at times for obtaining it. I’ve worked on the bank side and they’ve been discouraged most of the times, but not officially.

Post: Partner Wants to be Exclusive, I Want An Open Relationship

Shaun PetersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 7
@Anthony Wick Generally I say 50/50 is usually ideal, unless it’s like a husband and wife situation, or each person has offsetting skills and roles are clearly divided. Otherwise it’s kind of a “too many cooks in the kitchen” situation and can be a cluster to deal with. In the case of the other partners, I say more disclosure is better than less. That’s just my two cents.

Post: That didn’t go as planned!

Shaun PetersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Branden Sewell:
@Dan Barli

I am thinking long term. I would love to start with a duplex. Live in one side with my wife and rent the other. But I just don’t have the kind of capital needed for a down payment on a duplex.

Not too sure what my options are. I would rather do that than buy a single family home.

I have my own business but only have one year under our belt. So we are basically working with my wife's income. We got pre approved based off her income for a conventional or FHA type loan, but to get a duplex at the price we are pre approved for it just wouldn't make sense. Unless we found some kind of miracle deal at $200K.

Any advice given our situation?

I would disagree that it doesn't make sense to do this. I bought my first house as a Duplex and lived in one side and rented out the other. It's a great learning experience if you're just starting out and we actually did really well on net when we sold it and moved back to the Midwest. Financially it worked out pretty good for us, as our gain more than exceeded our costs. 

I would recommend you run a Net Present Value calculation on it, using some basic assumptions and see how the numbers look then. If it adds value long term than it's not necessarily a bad idea when you have no other good immediate options.