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All Forum Posts by: Steve Kim

Steve Kim has started 3 posts and replied 13 times.

Post: Ready to pull trigger on first deal- would appreciate feedback

Steve KimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • North Texas
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16
Originally posted by @Alfred Litton:

@Steve Kim What I would do is check the assessments of newly sold (2019) multifamilies in your appraisal district to see what they are paying.  So, for example, if there's been a couple of duplexes in the $250K-$400K range sold about 12-18 months ago, you'd want to see what they're paying now and how far off their appraisal is from what you think their market value is.

@Alfred Litton

The only 2-4 units in town are 70+ years old and are in C-/D neighborhoods ... so no real comps at all. 

He said the price was based off of price per sq feet of single family homes in area.  The most recent home that was sold with very similar amenities sold for $135/sq ft so the seller is saying I'm already getting a discount at $104/sq ft. 
 

Post: Ready to pull trigger on first deal- would appreciate feedback

Steve KimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • North Texas
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16

@Alfred Litton

That’s good point. I did verify the current tax (which has been consistent at $4800 for past 3 years) but you’re right- I didn’t think about the city reassessing and nearly doubling taxes...

Is there any way to know beforehand/be certain of how much it would increase by or if at all?

Post: Ready to pull trigger on first deal- would appreciate feedback

Steve KimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • North Texas
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16

@Lucia Rushton

It has two car ports per unit and it is properly zoned (verified).

There’s zero comps as it is the only newly built duplex in this entire area thus making my analysis a bit more difficult.

I’m in Wichita Falls so I also won’t be seeing appreciation like you would

Post: Ready to pull trigger on first deal- would appreciate feedback

Steve KimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • North Texas
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16

@Sebastian Marroquin 

He's selling because he's building his dream forever home and needs cash. 

There are handful of other properties that are performing at >10% CoC are at least 50 years old and are all very outdated and in C class neighborhoods which I assume will have significantly larger maintenance/CAPEX costs and lower quality tenants.

So I guess my question is, how do you factor in the age of the property and its higher end finishes? 

Post: Ready to pull trigger on first deal- would appreciate feedback

Steve KimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • North Texas
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16
Originally posted by @Jesse Glatz:

Its exciting to get into the rental portfolio business but like most successful investors know, you aim for an at least an 8% CoC return to stay even competitive with the general market return such as stocks, mutual funds, etc . 8% is considered a base hit, 10-12% is a home run and 15% or more is a grand slam. For your first one, I would really try to aim for 8% CoC minimum. Try reducing down payment, I know it will add PMI to the loan but again, rental income will pay that fee and with $345 net income, you have about $145 per month to play with based on the $100 per door for SFR and $200 per door for MF scenarios. Also look for other ways to add income such as a storage building, laundry, etc. You could even offer services such as lawn service, cleaning etc and tack on a bit to those charges. For instance, I have a lady that cleans all mine, charges me a reduced fee for multiple units but I charge a bit more on rent on each one for that service, increasing my net income. It works out so I am even making a slight bit on the cleaning fees.

But look for at least an 8% CoC return, at least $100 Net Income after all expenses per SFR and $200 Net income on multi family. $345 has a good return but if its not 8% CoC, I'd rather invest in the markets and do nothing and earn a higher yield. Sounds simple enough, but make sure you use the rental calculators on BP to adjust the sliders and play with the numbers to make it work.

Remember, every deal is a good deal. Every deal has a certain number that will make it a good deal, you just have to try to get to that number. Either reduce the down payment which would in turn decrease your net income (not as desirable) or decrease the purchase price which in turn decreases loan amount and decreases monthly debt service and doesn't effect rental income at all.


I will be self managing for first 3 years which would save me $9000. If I roll that $9000 back into my calculations (subtract it from closing and down payment costs), my Cash on cash jumps to 7.4% and if I can get the seller to come down just $5,000 on sales price, my CoC is at 8%.

(Yes I'm aware of time value of money but just trying to keep it simple as possible)     

And I'm pretty sure I can raise rents by $50 in 3 years which would increase my CoC further.

Is my logic valid or am I starting to get too emotionally attached to this property?


Post: Ready to pull trigger on first deal- would appreciate feedback

Steve KimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • North Texas
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16
Originally posted by @Chris Tarpey:

I understand you are not co located with the property, but there are great systems/companies out there that make land lording and property management much easier to do remote.

Just something to consider!

I actually am co-located with the property and will be self managing for at least 3 years but I still accounted for management fees. 

Post: Ready to pull trigger on first deal- would appreciate feedback

Steve KimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • North Texas
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16

Hi BP!

I currently have one rental property (primary residence turned rental) and this will be my true investment property purchase and wanted to make sure I'm on the right track.

Anyway, my agent who is also a builder/investor is selling his 3 years old duplex (1450 sq ft, 3bd/2ba per unit) , built ground up with all new/relatively high end amenities (tiled bath, quartz tops, custom kitchen, laminate everywhere). 
This is in north Texas so cash flow is typically weaker than other regions. 

Here are the numbers:

Purchase price: $300K
Closing: $5K
Down (20%): $60K
Rental Income: $1250 per unit ($2500 total)/ mo

Monthly Expenses:
Management: $250
Maintenance/CAPEX: $250
Vacancy:$125
Insurance:$100
Tax: $400
Total: $1125

Debt Service: $1030

Monthly Cash Flow: $345
NOI: $16,500
Cash on Cash: 6.4%
CAP: 5.5%

There are no comps for a new duplex so I've analyzed a few single family homes with similar square footage (1300 to 1600 sq ft range) and most of them perform at around same or slightly lower CAP and CoC rates.

I know the numbers aren't too strong but I believe that I can consistently get high quality tenants and can easily utilize one of the units as a short term rental because of the nice finishes.  Also this is the perfect house hack duplex for other buyers in the future (My wife refuses to house hack so no go for me)


Any input/feedback would be greatly appreciated!

Post: Best Financing options for a MFR

Steve KimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • North Texas
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16

may I ask how you're cash flowing in LA?  Even if I avoid buying retail, numbers just don't work for me.

What part of LA are you primarily investing in?

Post: Anyone buying retail space with laundromats?

Steve KimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • North Texas
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16

@Jordan Berry @Tony Kim

If you’re looking to replace old machines, do a full laundromat rehab, or even considering converting a retail space into a laundromat, shoot me a message.

My father specializes in that area with over 15 years of experience working with laundromats and hotels/spas all over Southern/Central CA.

Post: First Flip in Guam, no capital

Steve KimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • North Texas
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 16

@Dan Kim

DM me. I’m interested