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Post: Is 8.875 a good Dscr rate today

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Quote from @Khemraj Sarju Jr.:
There are no discount points associated with that floor rate. Only our 2 origination points. Thanks for your " " clarification as this can get confused across the board
At 7.25 and 2, I bet your phone is ringing off the hook.
Post: Lender to finance fix and rent multifamily

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Quote from @Tanu Soni:
Hi,
I am a new investor ,looking to buy my first multifamily(2-4 units) for renting. Most properties need some or full rehab . I got pre-approved with a lender but they don't do fixer upper loan . What are my options?
Thanks
Tanu
Hey Tanu,
Welcome to Biggerpockets.
With little to no experience, you'll probably be capped at 80% of the acquisition and then they'll cover 100% of the rehab, paid out in draws. That means as the project progresses, you'll send pictures of the completed work and if it's satisfactory, they'll wire additional funds to continue. Usually there are 3 to 4 draws depending on how much work is necessary. The first draw is acquisition and sometimes they add the demo to it. Then once the demo is complete you'll start on the trades with HVAC, electric, plumbing and carpentry. Once the trades are complete you'll get your close in inspection and another draw. From there it's the cosmetic piece with drywall finishing, paint, cabinets and flooring. Each lender is different, but they'll require a budget and scope of work to get going.
Once the work is complete and the property is stabilized (rented), it's time to apply for a conventional loan and if you don't qualify for that for whatever reason, go for a DSCR loan. Lots of brokers on BP can help you with that.
Hope that helps
Stephanie
Post: Is 8.875 a good Dscr rate today

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Quote from @Khemraj Sarju Jr.:
Quote from @Stephanie P.:
Quote from @Khemraj Sarju Jr.:
We have been offering clients floor rates in the 7.25% range. Nationwide.
How many points?
2
That's really inexpensive. I'm not seeing anything remotely close to that. The least expensive lender I'm seeing right now has a floor rate of 7.375 and it costs 1.25% to get there at 75%. That doesn't count our origination fee of 2.
Post: Is 8.875 a good Dscr rate today

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Quote from @Ifeanyi Onyeonwu:
I am unsure if the rate is good. I am concerned about the prepayment penalty of 11k if refinanced before 5 years ( would have paid 120k but 10 to principal) on a 220 cash loan
In two sentences, you brought up some really good points for all DSCR borrowers to ponder.
1. Rates aren't where they were a year ago. They're in the mid to high 8's with a couple to few points at 80% loan to value. How do you get it lower? Pay discount points to reduce the rate or pay to get the ltv lower. Rates are not going down in the near future. They're actually getting back to normal.
2. If you are in the DSCR world, you will encounter a pre payment penalty. There's no getting around them. What you do with it is up to you, but because these loans are inherently risky (no income verification always is) and you're asking lenders to put up their money to fund your venture, while not asking you for much other than a minimum of 15% down, they are going to ask for a specific return on their investment. That's all a pre payment penalty is; an assurance that the lender is going to get x amount of interest over the first few years of the loan.
3. If you did the math and you would have paid 120K, but only 10k to principal, then you understand how amortization schedules work. The amortization schedule doesn't change with the rate so you're going to pay a little bit of principal in the beginning regardless of the interest rate.
4. No matter what you do, a mortgage loan is a tool and not every tool works for every situation. That's why there are so many variables. If you're a long term hold person, then a 2 year interest only loan with no prepay makes NO sense, but if you're looking to acquire the property, stabilize it and count on a value increase before you sell it, it makes all the sense in the world. You see, it's up to you and how you want to or have the means to structure your loan.
Get a good mortgage broker to help you sort this all out. Have conversations with a few and go with the one that you trust the most. Rate, while important, isn't everything.
Stephanie
Post: Is 8.875 a good Dscr rate today

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Quote from @Tim Bee:
Bank of America is giving 5.3% 5y/6m ARM with 0.8 points and no pre pay penalty.
The post is about DSCR financing, not anything BofA has in their portfolio.
Post: Is 8.875 a good Dscr rate today

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Quote from @Khemraj Sarju Jr.:
We have been offering clients floor rates in the 7.25% range. Nationwide.
How many points?
Post: STR Rentals Negatively Impacting DTI Ratio

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Quote from @Dalton Stanley:
I have several short term rentals with positive cash flow well over the mortgage payment. When I go to purchase a primary residence on a conventional loan, my DTI ratio is too high because the bank won't count the short-term rental income as "income" for purposes of the DTI Ratio. Are their banks that will count my STR income? Or is there a work around?
Post: Can I get a mortgage while I’m not working

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Quote from @Steve Strom:
Recently unemployed, long term want to create a rental property business. Can I qualify for a mortgage while currently not working? If I owe a property?
DSCR financing is made for your situation. We recently got an unemployed man financed on a 2.1M purchase of a 29 unit building at 75% loan to value.
The cash flow of the building and the guarantor/borrower's credit is the key.
PM sent
Stephanie
Post: Should I finance a home I paid cash for in 2022?

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Quote from @Michael Qubein:
I am interested in a buying a second property but do not have the proper funds. Should I pull the money out of my first property?
Get a HELOC on the first property and use it just in case.
Post: Is it worth buying fully renovated properties for long term investing?

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Quote from @David Travieso:
Good day BP family,
I'm a newbie investor looking to finally take action of my first property. The last two years I have read and heard that it's better to buy distressed properties so you can add value (equity) to it. Which makes sense.
With that being said, I'm a bit scared of biting off more than I can chew. I don't have much experience with rehabbing properties.
I see properties fully renovated and I think " wow, all I need to do is buy this and then rent it out." But of course the numbers need to work.
If I plan on holding these properties for the next 20-30 years, how much importance should I put on adding equity? I prefer positive cashflow if I had to choose.
If there is any advice or helpful tips, I greatly appreciate it. Thank you ALL!
Here are the tips I give to new investors
House hack if you can.
Use an FHA 203K loan type so you can renovate a property the way you want it using the bank's money
Get multiple units using FHA so you can get the most doors with the least money out of pocket
IF house hacking is out of the question, look for seller financed properties.
If that's out of the question then use conventional financing as much as possible. It's the least expensive with the lowest cost.
Find properties by going to meetups and REIA's and talking to investors
Build a team of people you can trust to help you. Contractors, Realtors, lenders, brokers, insurance folks and title companies
Good luck and all the best
BTW Remember it's all just a math problem. If the numbers work, pull the trigger.
Stephanie