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Post: Financing Question for first-time investors without a lot of cash to put down!

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Quote from @Phillip Dixon:
Hello there!
Quick shot in the dark to anyone with more experience than I do! My wife and I would like to buy a multi-family, but we do not have a bunch of cash to put down! We own our home, about 80k in a 500k loan, asset probably about 600k value in todays market. We net about 220k in salaries & compensation. Our credit scores are both well above 800. We want to buy a investment property priced at about 700k, with little down but finance about an additional 200k for improvements. We have a good understanding of our city & local market, and think it would be about a million dollar asset and cash flow positive by the end (we'd be adding a 3rd unit to a duplex). Would any lender even consider this? =)
The only way I know for you to do this is to move into the new home and use an FHA loan to purchase it. 3.5% down. I don't think you'll be able to use rental income from the departing residence, but you may qualify if you don't have much debt, especially because you can use 75% of the market rent for the new property's units.
The new property, if it's a 3 or 4 unit building would have to pass FHA's self sustainability test and may do it given how expensive Boston's rents are.
Other than that, I don't know any way to get around paying at least 20% down.
Stephanie
Post: On the clock with a $1 mil in a 1031 - what would you do?

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Quote from @Alex Olson:
@Mike S. Would look at a market like KC. Happy to provide you a detailed analysis of what sub markets are like if interested. DM me.
Totally agree. We closed a 29 unit building on Benton Blvd earlier this year in a 1031 and it was a cash cow.
Post: Loan options and first timer

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Quote from @Cosme Escamilla:
Im in the process of searching for my first possible buy and hold. Or a quick flip, i understand the type of loan you pursue depends on the strategy and goal you have set.. with that being said; would a buy and hold go through a bank? And a quick flip would be better with hard money? 203k For a BRRR? Please and thank you
203K is fantastic if you can find a multi family property that needs renovation, but you must live in the property for 12 months. If you plan on doing that, then hard money or DSCR won't work. If you're not going to live in it, 203K is not an option. Then you do the hard money and refinance it into a DSCR or even better, a conventional product.
Post: On the clock with a $1 mil in a 1031 - what would you do?

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Quote from @Mike S.:
Hello BiggerPocket Community,
Long story short on the clock with a low 7 figures in a 1031 - what would you do?
Currently have small portfolio of rentals that cash flow. Current market is very low inventory if nothing at this price point for multi families..
What should my goal be? how high should the bar be and what kind of measurable(s) should I not lose focus of.
Bottom line developer came in and paid the premium.
Thanks for your help BP Community!
-Mike
I'd parlay that low seven figures into multi family properties in middle markets like Kansas City or Pittsburgh or Orlando. Let me know if you need referrals for Realtors etc... in those areas.
Stephanie
Post: Refinance or HELOC for 1st Rental

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Quote from @Brad Blank:
I was given a property some years back as a donation. So the property is free and clear of any debt. Unfortunately, I was not able to use it as rental property and start my venture into real estate investing until now. The property is in need of some TLC, such as paint, they were heavy smokers and smoked in the house, appliances, and some updating.
Trying to decide if I should do a refinance or use a HELOC to make the repairs/update to get started. With the high interest rates now, not sure which would be better. What thoughts or advise would y'all give to someone in this situation.
I'd do a combination of loans to accomplish what you want.
Take a HELOC to get the work done. Then get long term financing and pay off the HELOC so you can use it on other properties. Getting the work done first with the HELOC will get you the best possible appraised value without a negative condition adjustment.
Refi later if the rates drop.
Hope that helps
Stephanie
Post: Buying with DSCR then refinancing with DSCR

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Quote from @Nathan Harden:
Hey BP community!
I am running low on personal capital so buying a property outright is difficult at the moment (until I refinance/sell my BRRRR projects going on right now). I was wondering if anyone has any experience of buying a move in ready investment property using a DSCR lender then Refinancing after the seasoning period with a DSCR lender? I would do some small or light cosmetic fixes during the seasoning period to increase the value of the property, just don't know if small cosmetic changes are going to make a huge difference in ARV.
I am trying to get more doors and don't want to sit on the sideline while my current projects have most of my personal capital and private money tied into them. For example, if I found a smoking deal, turnkey $100k property, the lender wanted some skin in the game from me and require $25k down from me, I want to be able to get that $25k back as soon as possible. The initial buy is what is holding me up at the moment, should I look into bridge loans? After points, costs, etc. Is there point in buying an investment property using a DSCR loan if I plan on refinancing it with DSCR in 6 months? Biggest thing is just getting whatever money (or close to it) I put in, back out as soon as possible.
Which brings me to another question for the more experienced investors out there. For turnkey properties, Is using private/hard money to buy properties outright then refinance out of them in 6 months to a DSCR the best option?
Use bridge funding/hard money to acquire and rehab the property and then DSCR after 3-6 months to get into a longer term financing vehicle.
Something you mentioned about borrowing from parents I think is important to address. Structure from the beginning to the end of the process is important. If you own other properties and have mortgages on them, some lenders want to see the mortgage histories on those other properties and if there's a private mortgage on them that doesn't report to the credit bureaus, they may ask for cancelled checks. If you missed a payment to Dad the lender, that may keep you from getting a loan. Make sure you tell your mortgage broker everything so they can structure your loan for success.
All the best
Stephanie
Post: Please help - I want to secure a loan to buyout my 50/50 partner

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Quote from @Trevor Barrett:
Quote from @Stephanie P.:
Quote from @Trevor Barrett:
Hello BPers,
I currently am 50/50 partners in an investment in a single family residence worth ~$2 million. My partner wants to sell, but I want to buy out her portion. I do not have a lot in terms off cash reserves, and would love to be able to get a loan secured by my portion of the property to be able to buy her out right away. I am in West Los Angeles. Any help or referrals would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.
On a DSCR loan, cash out can be used as cash reserves.
Thank you for this. Do you have any trusted referrals?
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Post: Investment Group Financing in Northeast NJ - Set up an LLC before first purchase?

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Quote from @Jerome Nunez:
We do not intend to house hack. Do groups typically structure LLCs with intent of buying investment properties or have you seen groups select one person to put the loan under?
Seperately, is it worth setting up an LLC before first purchase or should this created during attorney review?
Get the broker to pull credit on everyone involved in the transaction and then use the person with the best credit as the principal member of the LLC. Pricing will be better that way.
Post: Does anyone have experience with D.S.C.R. Loans

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Quote from @Mitchell Catoe:
Rookie here……but D.S.C.R loans seem to be a great way to acquire property. I’d like to talk with anyone who has dealt with these kinds of loans before. Pros/Cons, contacts even maybe, for instance how do you even acquire a loan like this, or is it the same as hard money dealings. I just don’t know
DSCR loans are great ways to scale your business, but they're not without pitfalls. They are inherently more expensive than conventional financing and each DSCR LENDER has their own guidelines. Find a good DSCR Broker that works with a variety of lenders so they can tailor your scenario to the right lender. Nothing worse than ordering the appraisal and credit and then realizing your loan won't work for that particular lender because of reserves or seasoning or an equity stake that didn't get taken into consideration.
All the best
Stephanie
Post: Looking for a RE to help with purchase of a multi-family rental property.

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Quote from @David Rosen:
The post was meant to be vague since I have not done this before. Initially, my thought process was to just bait the hook to see who bites because I am also new to bigger pockets and not sure how it all works. All of your questions need to be answered before I purchase something, but I’m really looking for is someone that would sit down with me and work all that out. So I would need someone that would get something out of it as well, i.e a broker or agent. All I know is that I am motivated to buy and willing to do the work, I just need some guidelines.
Very good. Thanks for clarifying.
If I were to counsel you on getting started, I would focus on the following:
Mid markets, not major markets. They cash flow better. Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Tyler TX, Orlando.
I'd use 75% loan to value as a guide. Any higher and the rates get wonky (at least on DSCR loans).
I'd exhaust all of my conventional financing options before I'd venture into any commercial or DSCR financing.
I'd keep my units per building to 4 and below because you can get conventional financing or DSCR financing.
I would not get an LLC and I would use an umbrella liability policy if I was worried about getting sued by a tenant.
I wouldn't be afraid of buying an older house that needs renovation as long as you can get it at 50% or less of the after repair value.
That's it for now.
All the best
Stephanie