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All Forum Posts by: Stephanie P.

Stephanie P. has started 186 posts and replied 4622 times.

Post: Debt Service Coverage Ratio loans - More info about it?

Stephanie P.
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Quote from @Quentin Thiery:

Hi BP,

I hope everyone is well! I haven't read much about DSCR loans; but as far as what i understand - it focuses more on about the potential rental income and overall health of the investment rather than your personal income and/or credit score? I'm guessing the caveat means you need to bring 15-25% down payment and that's sometimes difficult for certain new investors like myself?

Thank you and let me know if some lenders or RE pro's out there know more information DSCR loans!


DSCR loans focus completely on the monthly payment vs rental amount and the pricing is determined by the loan to value and the guarantor or borrower's credit score. There are some DSCR lenders that don't care about the experience of the guarantor or borrower and others that do. Typically, to make these work, you're going to be at 75% or below because the rents have to cover the mortgage.

It's not difficult for new investors like yourself to get these loans.  You just need a good mortgage broker that understands them to get you together with the right lender.  

Generally, they don't have a 25 year amortization, but 30 to help with cash flow.  There is usually an interest only option that is becoming more popular as rates increase.

Hope that helps

Stephanie

Post: Looking for lender that does cash out refi. 90% LTV and favorable terms

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Quote from @Shaqiul Chowdhury:

Hello all,

I fully renovated a property in Decatur, GA but it has been sitting in the market for a while and I'd much rather keep it for a few years and watch it appreciate further than take a loss as it is a great property in a great part of Decatur. The house will surely continue to appreciate while I either rent out the property or Airbnb it. I currently have a hard money loan on the property and am shopping lenders to cash out refi. Is there any recommendations for lenders that would do a 90% LTV with favorable terms? My credit is still very strong and I would refinance and keep it within an LLC.

Would appreciate any insight or help as it has been a very stressful time and I am looking to move quick on refinancing. Thanks in advance.
 


90% cash out doesn't exist.  90% with favorable terms really doesn't exist.

Not sure how you got into this situation using hard money (usually they have a tighter lid on the numbers), but regardless, sell the property and try to get out of it before the HML gets a chance to foreclose.

Post: (refinance) hard money lender vs conviental for investment 30 year fixed

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Quote from @Mark Munson:

Hi @Phil Shelton

Anyone that says a HML doesn't do long-term financing is incorrect, numerous do. The standard is 30-years and usually 1% above a conventional loan or so. They aren't holding the note for 30-years, it gets sold on the secondary market, but you have 30-years to pay it off. There is a significant lack of knowledge in our space on what options are out there, I suggest connecting with as many lenders and brokers as you can to see what they might have. I can give you 20 examples of lenders that are on the HM side that do this and I have done them personally for years. A HML loan won't report to the credit bureaus, so there are advantages, many beyond that. It is a far easier underwriting process, feel free to reach out to get some actual feedback on what the markets offer.


Just curious. Are you equating DSCR with hard money?


I don't know if equate is the right word, but all of your major HMLs offer DSCR loans. HML was flooded with institutional capital over the last few years, allowing most HMLs to offer a DSCR product through their secondary market investor or allowing them access to the capital markets to sell those notes. So yes, in a sense, because DSCR loans are available through HMLs. Institutional money (Wall-Street) has even changed their outlooks on lending due to HM over the last few years. The very definition of HM is as follows:


A hard money loan is a specific type of asset-based loan financing through which a borrower receives funds secured by real property. Hard money loans are typically issued by private investors or companies. Interest rates are typically higher than conventional commercial or residential property loans because of the higher risk and shorter duration of the loan.


Outside of the loan duration mentioned above, a DSCR loan fits that mold. The extent of the qualifications stemming from the borrower is their credit score; otherwise, it is entirely asset-based. If the asset is cash-flowing or the rents are at par with the monthly payment, the vast majority of people will qualify with some DSCR lender, because we are lending money based upon the asset. 

 I think you missed the spirit of @Ned Careys post. Whether a hard money lender offers a DSCR product or not, there's a huge distinction over the hard money portion that's generally short term and interest only with a long term DSCR loan that's typically amortized over 30 years.

Post: Fund rehab on owned property

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Quote from @John Earls:

Hello BP!

Currently we own 3 properties under one seller financed mortgage. We are needing to renovate one unit within the portfolio and then sell them individually. What would be the best way to obtain funding for the rehab?


Break up the portfolio and get individual mortgages. Then get hard money for the rehab and DSCR for the other two. If you can get a local bank to do the financing, it would be even better. They may not make you break up the portfolio, just fund the rehab and keep a note for all three.

Post: Creative financing solution needed in KCMO

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Quote from @Wouter Erwee:

I have two SFH in KCMO that I need to refinace out of hard money loans into a 30 year product. Each tenanted at $1k. They recently appraised at $125k and my loans are about $100k. The lender did not allow me to roll the closing costs into the loan, and needed about $15k of closing costs for each house. I unfortunately can do that right now.

Looking for someone that is a little bit more flexible on LTV with some creative options.

Any thoughts or recs?


 Your properties aren't cash flowing enough for the loan you're looking for.  Sell them and then take the money you make and put it into a multi family property in the same market.

Post: Line of Credit on Investment Property

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Quote from @Austin John Fiero:

Hello BP Fam!

I have an investment property that was acquired Sub-to. The property has ~100K on the mortgage left (in sellers name) and I am making the payments. The property was recently appraised for ~210K. I was curious if it was possible to do a Line of Credit on this property given the mortgage not in my name of my LLCs.

Thank you!


 If the title hasn't changed hands, no.

Post: Refinance - Personal to LLC

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Quote from @Ben Habig:

I currently own a rental property out right that I would like to refinance to get my cash back out of it for another purchase. I would like to put the property in an LLC when I do for liability reasons. However, my research thus far says I can not get a 30 year mortgage with an LLC. Without the 30 year term, this move becomes much less enticing. Is there something I am missing? I have looked into getting the mortgage in my name, and then transferring to LLC after mortgage is completed, but I get mixed reviews on this as being a bad idea. How do I accomplish both outcomes?

 You can do that as @Jay Hurst laid out. Stick with conventional financing if you qualify on this one. It will be cheaper than DSCR.

Post: (refinance) hard money lender vs conviental for investment 30 year fixed

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Quote from @Mark Munson:

Hi @Phil Shelton

Anyone that says a HML doesn't do long-term financing is incorrect, numerous do. The standard is 30-years and usually 1% above a conventional loan or so. They aren't holding the note for 30-years, it gets sold on the secondary market, but you have 30-years to pay it off. There is a significant lack of knowledge in our space on what options are out there, I suggest connecting with as many lenders and brokers as you can to see what they might have. I can give you 20 examples of lenders that are on the HM side that do this and I have done them personally for years. A HML loan won't report to the credit bureaus, so there are advantages, many beyond that. It is a far easier underwriting process, feel free to reach out to get some actual feedback on what the markets offer.


Just curious. Are you equating DSCR with hard money?

Post: DSCR "Rural" lending

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Quote from @Tanner Johnson:

So I have been having a lot of trouble getting a cash out loan on one of my properties I own outright, and I thought DSCR lending was going to be my saving grace. Well turns out pretty much my entire investing area is considered "rural" even though this specific property is right in the middle of a 30,000 population town and most DSCR lenders will not loan on it because of this. Has anyone ever found a way around this as I really need this to happen if I am going to scale. Conventional lending is not really an option as I am a college student and dont have much W-2 income at this time.


A town with a population density of 30K is not rural whether it's a DSCR loan or not. You may have a unique property.

Many DSCR lenders use idcide.com for their rural designations. If a property is in a town of 25K people or more, it's not rural. If it's in a town of less than 25K people, but it's within 25 miles of a town of 100K people, then it's not rural. If it's less than 25K people and it's more than 100K people, then it's rural.

Rural doesn't necessarily preclude a property for many lenders, but it will reduce the ltv (typically to 65%).

Post: Conventional, Heloc or Commercial???

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Quote from @John Matthew Johnston:

My wife and I have just bought our 8th door and we use the Brrrr strategy. We have always went for the 30 year fixed because our goal is CF and we plan to hold for a long time. I am only a nurse and my wife is a stay at home mother basically so we arent high income earners . We recently started to run into DTI issues and a commercial lender said I shouldn't be assuming mortgages in my name anymore to avoid this issue. The last 2 loans I took out were commercial loans with 5 yr. ARMS that aren't fixed and I just dont like not having a fixed rate. My question is what would be my best loan option to get the longest amortization, fixed and decent rates without assuming loans in my own name or should I just keep trying for conventional loans and max out the 10 conventional loans rule. I have always struggled with the Refi aspect and what the best options are. It seems like everyone has a different opinion of it.


 Hey John,

First, you're not "only a nurse".  You and your colleagues are the backbone of health care, so thank you.

I'm a DSCR broker (full disclosure).

I always recommend borrowers exhaust their conventional financing before venturing into commercial or DSCR, especially if they're in it for the long haul. The rates, over time, will pay you back handsomely. Once you get to a point where either you don't qualify or don't want the hassle, then DSCR is a great way to go because of either the interest only option that gets you better cash flow or the 30 year fixed option. Commercial with a shorter amortization is last in my opinion.