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Post: Considerations for turning expensive home into rental

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Quote from @Bill B.:
I don’t have a problem with the price and the rent, and especially the made up argument about equity in a deal. Simply take out a heloc, boom, normal equity in a deal, so ignore that argument.
But…if you’re leaving the state consider this question. If you were living in Florida would you buy this property as a rental from there? If not, probably sell.
But…what I consider important you left out. What did you pay for this property? This is your chance to sell without paying taxes. If you’re only talking $50k in appreciation since you bought it, fine. But if it’s up $100 or $200k that’s $15-$30k in taxes you’re saving. How long will it take the rental to make that money just so you can be even with selling today?
I don’t think you have to give the house away. But do some math on the deal. Maybe talk to a PM about how much rent they could get and what you would bet in a Hans off deal. IF you have less than $50k in appreciation.
Post: Considerations for turning expensive home into rental

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Post: Considerations for turning expensive home into rental

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Quote from @Yon Jones:
I would have to agree with more doors less risk. I’ve lived in Tacoma and I know how expensive Seattle can be. I would do good market research for where you want to go in Florida and make sure the numbers make sense with active listing on the market now. If the city you choose to live in isn’t as investor friendly I’d consider smaller cities near where you plan to retire. We have purchased house hacked and sold in each place we have lived now the main focus is to develop a portfolio of properties ranging from A-C class in a lower taxed market in an area I’m familiar with. The vacancy for such a large expensive property deters me vs a property with a mortgage of equal value with 4-6 unit. Hope that’s helpful depending on where your headed in Florida I may know some realtors if you need assistance.
Pensacola FL is a great place! Very relaxed with an amazing beach. Hope you love it here!!!
I’m seeing a lot of people popping up with Exp Realty. My current Selling Agent and my contact in Pensacola are with Exp and I will be looking into it myself. I might hold off for a while as I am a Pilot so will have to see if it’s worth it as I will not have the availability to do this if I’m leaving town for days at a time.
Post: Considerations for turning expensive home into rental

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Quote from @Colleen F.:
@Stephen Williams welcome to BP! Sell it. I don't know if this is a good offer but in the end having that much cash tied up in equity you have to ask if you could earn more on that cash elsewhere. Comparatively speaking the lot size and 200 square foot more isn't going to bring you in much more rent unless you have an extra bedroom. There is also a risk is having all the cash in one rental. I am sure someone will give you cash on cash and return on investment numbers but the only way I could see this as a good investment is if it makes a great STR with higher numbers and you are hedging your bets on inflation.
Post: Considerations for turning expensive home into rental

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Quote from @Josh Green:
@stephen when and where are you moving to FL? This is a tough choice and I would need more details on your goals and intents and timelines to make a better suggestion. One thing to question is have you considered doing an STR on that? You might be able to pull in 1.5-3x that much in monthly rent, and if so, I would keep. I'm from the west (SLC) and cities like that are going to continue to blow up over the next 10 years. There's several strategies you could take here, including unlocking some of that equity rather than outright selling. Again, just depends on the details.
The HOA does not allow for it. At 6% interest just taking 100k out will probably kill all cash flow based on the numbers I’m seeing for rent around here.
STR is very busy and pretty much booming as my wife works with her brother to manage a STR in Gulf Breeze and they’ve been getting over $5k a month and the summer months haven’t even arrived yet. I think they’re expecting $8k on average per month during peak season on a house he was previously renting for $2,000 a month.
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Quote from @Yon Jones:
I would have to agree with more doors less risk. I’ve lived in Tacoma and I know how expensive Seattle can be. I would do good market research for where you want to go in Florida and make sure the numbers make sense with active listing on the market now. If the city you choose to live in isn’t as investor friendly I’d consider smaller cities near where you plan to retire. We have purchased house hacked and sold in each place we have lived now the main focus is to develop a portfolio of properties ranging from A-C class in a lower taxed market in an area I’m familiar with. The vacancy for such a large expensive property deters me vs a property with a mortgage of equal value with 4-6 unit. Hope that’s helpful depending on where your headed in Florida I may know some realtors if you need assistance.
Post: Considerations for turning expensive home into rental

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Quote from @Colleen F.:
@Stephen Williams welcome to BP! Sell it. I don't know if this is a good offer but in the end having that much cash tied up in equity you have to ask if you could earn more on that cash elsewhere. Comparatively speaking the lot size and 200 square foot more isn't going to bring you in much more rent unless you have an extra bedroom. There is also a risk is having all the cash in one rental. I am sure someone will give you cash on cash and return on investment numbers but the only way I could see this as a good investment is if it makes a great STR with higher numbers and you are hedging your bets on inflation.
Post: Considerations for turning expensive home into rental

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I am retiring from the military and currently have my home on the market north of Seattle for $775k. Based on the estimated prices we have $300k in equity right now. The market for our range of home has just about come to a screeching halt and today we finally got an offer for $745k and I can tell how this is going they will be trying to pay less after possibly wasting our time in escrow.
We are currently on a 2.5% 30 year mortgage and the payment with Taxes and insurance is $2337. A home 2 doors down is renting for $2950 that is 200 sq ft smaller and on a .86 acre lot while our home is on a 1.26 acre lot.
Now I know we have cash flow and it will be pretty nice as in close to $1,000 a month but I need to get some data from experienced investors to make sure I'm not missing anything. I'm leaning more towards get out and take the money to Florida where we're moving rather than have one huge rental for the price of what can be 3-5 smaller properties or doors in a bigger property.
Just wondering what are some thoughts here. Not really looking for suggestions but I have heard mixed feelings from some bigger names.
David Greene always says invest where you feel comfortable investing and move on to other markets.
Jason Hartman has said it's doesn't make sense to have $775k invested in a single door. $3500 in rent is steep for my area for a single family home and that is only a 5.4% gross return on %775k.
Others and even to mention Ken McElroy has mentioned this interest rate is hard to beat so he would be hard pressed to sell BUT...he was talking about primary residence not exactly an investment. I do not see staying here as ideal for us.