Originally posted by @Christopher Lombardi:
@Steve K. I agree, NJ is screwed as well. CA, IL, NY and NJ, the 4 states that have a mass exodus happening right now. These politicians are idiots. As for the solar panel thing, financially, solar panels never make sense. They cost much more than getting your electricity the traditional way from the power companies. I'm not sure how CA plans to pay for it or specifically what the law said, but I'm sure its going to hurt everyone. As far as how good they are for the environment, solar panels dont last very long and when disposed of, the toxic metals that they contain are very harmful to the environment. Right now they dont have enough solar panel recycling facilities to have them recycled so the way it is now, instead of polluting with fossil fuels, its polluting grounds and water with toxic metals.
Actually, isnt CA almost exclusively nuclear power anyway right now?
California's population is growing consistently by 300-400,000 people each year over the last 10 years. Some residents are leaving, but more are moving in. They definitely don't have a problem with a "mass exodus", if anything the opposite is true, they're struggling with ways to accommodate their growing population. That's why it makes sense to include a power plant with every new home. Build a new roof, power the home with that roof.
Financially solar panels make a ton of sense. There's an upfront cost but over time the power they produce is far less expensive than traditional energy sources.
Solar panels don't last very long? That's utter hogwash. Down the street from me is NREL, where they test new technology. They have an array consisting of solar panels from the 70's and guess what? Still producing power. Why would we recycle them when they still generate valuable electricity? Modern solar panels are even better, they come with 20-25 year warranties, degrade less than 1% per year, and will still be producing valuable electricity in 30-40 years at least. If you want to "recycle" some panels, just bring them over my house, I'll plug them in and sell the electricity.
Also not sure what "toxic metals" you think solar panels are made of. They're made mostly of silicon which is the eighth most common element in the universe that is non toxic and easily recycled. The embodied energy in a solar panel, the amount of energy it took to produce it including mining the aluminum for the frame, all the materials in it, assembly, shipping and everything, is offset by the production from the panel in 1-4 years, so they pay for themselves in terms of energy return on energy invested many times over during their useful life, that's why they make so much sense environmentally.
"Actually, isnt CA almost exclusively nuclear power anyway right now?"
Nope. Currently about 14% of CA energy comes from Nuclear, compared to 19% from solar. California is not big on nuclear. They’re shutting down the last remaining nuclear plant and not building new ones. Fukushima was the last nail in the coffin for nuclear. We realized having these facilities was too much liability, especially next to the ocean and on top of major fault lines. Side note: Did you know there’s a nuclear plant in NJ that's the same dangerous design (Mark 1 by GE, 1960's technology that we've known was faulty since 1972) as Fukushima? The biggest job maker in nuclear currently is the decommissioning industry. It takes over ten years and costs billions of dollars to take these things apart. Guess who pays for that? Taxes. Meanwhile people think recycling solar panels is a problem SMH.