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All Forum Posts by: Tanner Marsey

Tanner Marsey has started 14 posts and replied 426 times.

Post: California ADU business

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578
Originally posted by @David Maldonado:
Originally posted by @Tanner Marsey:
Originally posted by @David Maldonado:
Originally posted by @Tanner Marsey:

I'm not quite sold on the ADU in existing space of SFHs. Conventional buyers of SFHs are usually looking for two things.... a garage and a yard. After financing the build of the ADU, dealing with tenants and everything that comes along with that, sacrificing your own space if you occupy the home and the decreased value of your property due to the fact that there is no longer a garage or a good portion of outdoor space is taken up by this ADU.... I don't know if the juice is worth the squeeze.

It all depends on the area and your goals. There are homes that sold in my area with converted garages into "master bedrooms with a sink" (that's what people here did before the legalization of ADUs) that sold for about 40k more due to the added square footage in the home. This is more for people who don't plan on selling that home (probably ever) bc of the significant cash flow the unit brings along with the main house. And your view on dealing with tenants is just like owning any other rental or living in a multifamily home.

Not saying there isn’t money to be made because their definitely is. Personally, I just don’t know if it’s worth it.  

 What questions or concerns do you have? I'd like to know just in case if there are areas I have missed. I already got information on a couple things I wasn't aware of about adus just from this post lol 

Pretty much the stuff that has been discussed in this thread. Along with personal reasons IE living with tenant. The fact that a dwelling with an ADU wouldn't be eligible for traditional financing is huge. Just a new area that I haven't fully explored and broken down. Like everything else... if the numbers work and all the other factors at play are good in your opinion.... go for it!

Post: California ADU business

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578
Originally posted by @David Maldonado:
Originally posted by @Tanner Marsey:

I'm not quite sold on the ADU in existing space of SFHs. Conventional buyers of SFHs are usually looking for two things.... a garage and a yard. After financing the build of the ADU, dealing with tenants and everything that comes along with that, sacrificing your own space if you occupy the home and the decreased value of your property due to the fact that there is no longer a garage or a good portion of outdoor space is taken up by this ADU.... I don't know if the juice is worth the squeeze.

It all depends on the area and your goals. There are homes that sold in my area with converted garages into "master bedrooms with a sink" (that's what people here did before the legalization of ADUs) that sold for about 40k more due to the added square footage in the home. This is more for people who don't plan on selling that home (probably ever) bc of the significant cash flow the unit brings along with the main house. And your view on dealing with tenants is just like owning any other rental or living in a multifamily home.

Not saying there isn’t money to be made because their definitely is. Personally, I just don’t know if it’s worth it. 

Post: California ADU business

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578

I'm not quite sold on the ADU in existing space of SFHs. Conventional buyers of SFHs are usually looking for two things.... a garage and a yard. After financing the build of the ADU, dealing with tenants and everything that comes along with that, sacrificing your own space if you occupy the home and the decreased value of your property due to the fact that there is no longer a garage or a good portion of outdoor space is taken up by this ADU.... I don't know if the juice is worth the squeeze.

Post: Southern California Investing or Out of State Investing

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578

Determine what you’re looking for as far as immediate cash flow vs appreciation and future cashflow. That will tell you where to park your money. Also, no reason not to entertain/pursue both. A property in so cal that you hold long term, have the tenant pay down the mortgage and appreciates will far out weigh any return you’ll see in the mid west/south. A few hundred bucks per door is nothing compared to 100s of thousands of dollars in appreciation.

Post: If you plan to hold forever....

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578
Originally posted by @Ned Carey:

@Tanner Marsey If you are buying for cash flow, it doesn't mater where the deal comes from. It cash flows to your requirements or it doesn't.

There are times when it is easy to pay full retail and get good cash flow. There are time when paying full retail makes it very hard to cash flow. 

 Immediate Cash flow is very far down on my list of reasons to purchase rentals. I am more interested in the diversification, debt paydown, and appreciation. I’m looking to reap the benefits of investing 20ish + years from now. So that makes it a bit more of an issue for me. If cash flow was my goal it’d be a no brainer. 

Post: If you plan to hold forever....

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578
Originally posted by @Cody L.:
Originally posted by @Tanner Marsey:

Does it really matter if you pay retail and buy via MLS?

Thoughts?

Yes  even if you have no plans to sell; you only have so much capital to deploy and want to make sure each dollar you send out to battle brings as much back as it can. 

Paying retail removes an “out”. But even if you’re not concerned with that you should be concerned about decreasing your potential income 

And this is my only qualm with picking something off the MLS. My professional career as well as another business I have are keeping me very busy to the point where it would be 100x easier to pick something rent ready off the MLS and buy it as opposed to an off market deal with even a cosmetic rehab. But with the capital I have now... playing it smart might be the difference between obtaining two properties or four which in the grand scheme of things is a large chunk of money.

Post: If you plan to hold forever....

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578

@Luke Reninger

Good point.... having options is always nice.

Post: If you plan to hold forever....

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578

Does it really matter if you pay retail and buy via MLS?

Thoughts?

Post: I woke up with $1.1 million equity and have NO idea what to do.

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578

Sell them and use the profits for something more passive. Lend the funds or toss them in a syndication deal. With that kind of money you should be able to realize a good chunk of income per year and have little to no headaches.

Post: Marketing fail. My houses are not selling

Tanner MarseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 439
  • Votes 578

1. It’s price.

2. Photos but still, ultimately, price.

3. You’re stepping over dollars to pick up times. Hire a professional to sell these places. You have multiple places for sale. Find a good agent, negotiate commission and get these properties sold. Quick. Slow season is approaching rapidly.