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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 4 posts and replied 682 times.

Post: So here's my dilemna

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  • Manhattan, NY
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Taz tries to hand Dean one well certified clue.

Post: Getting Tenant to move out

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Originally posted by Curt Davis:
If the renter gives you a problem just turn off the utilities to the home and it wont take much time for them to leave. I have other excellent ways to help get them out, let me know if you need off the record advice.

Have you ever done this? I agree with MikeOH, that is terrible advice. In fact, it may be the worst advice I've ever read on this site.

You know, earlier today I was questioning why I have yearly ethics refreshers for our employees who buy, sell and manage our properties. This from Curt is a prime example of why we do it.

I did two web presentations today on ethics for Field Guide members. Part of my presentation talks about the crappy reputation we have as investors. Things like, "just turn off the utilities" is a big part of the reason we have to look up to used car dealers on the trust ladder.

Michael, your rental agreement will tell you how to give notice to terminate the month to month rental. Your lease will tell how to do an early termination on the lease.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

Post: Looking for a book I think is out of print?

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David,

If this is the book you are looking for...

http://www.reitactics.com/untitled-2

Accept my colleague request and send me an email, NOT A PM THROUGH THIS SITE. If that is the book you are looking for, I can replace your lost copy.

Post: Cash or Accrual Accounting?

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I sit corrected, again!

Accrual methods are generally required if you must account for inventory to accurately track your income and expenses.

A real estate investor, yes even a landlord, can choose to use the accrual method of accounting. For the life of me I don't know why a landlord would, but you could.

Post: Installment debt affecting debt/credit ratio

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Once you have graduated the student loans are no longer "open lines" you can borrow against. They are treated like any other declining balance installment loan. Meaning, the % of the balance as opposed to the highest balance or what used to be the available credit limit are meaningless. Once you are no longer a student, you can't increase the balance of these loans except by defaulting.

Paying them down or off entirely will have the same effect. It will reduce your debt payment to income ratio and that is ALWAYS a good thing.

However, if you have other debt, like credit card, car loans and such, PAY THOSE OFF FIRST. Student loan interest is deductible even if you don't itemize. Other consumer debt interest is not deductible whether you itemize or not.

Post: Cash or Accrual Accounting?

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Actually, I sit corrected. There is a way to sell, carry back the note and still defer the gains. But, it is not a simple sale with owner financing and if your have depreciation to recapture it gets very complex, very fast.

Post: Cash or Accrual Accounting?

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Originally posted by Ralph Scott:
Hate to disagree with Taz, I usually think he's spot on. But, financing the sale can defer paying capital gains tax. Either selling on a land contract, or takiing a note can the taxable portion. In both cases, the sale is recorded, and the gain is determined on the tax return. Then you claim deferral of the tax to future years. In both cases, each year you will reduce the amount of the unpaid gain and pay taxes on the principal portion you received, and then pay tax on the interest earned.
That only works on a land contract, not on a note. But, hey, I encourage you to not trust my answers but to find out for yourself. After all, I am not the one who will be at YOUR audit.

Your rents should NEVER be in their trust account.

Post: Cash or Accrual Accounting?

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Originally posted by Eliott Grigg:
I was curious about this as well...not for property sales...but for regular monthy rent collection.

Per my management company, I receive January 1st rent on February 15th. This give the management company time to collect the rents (and late rents), process and send me the funds. I have no problem with this method, however I run into the following problem...

Decmebr 1st 2009 rent is collected, but not paid to me until January 15th of the following year. For which tax year do I recognize this rent?

thanks in advance

First, the management company should be immediately depositing the rent checks into YOUR account, not theirs. Then you pay the maintenance and their fees from that account.

Second, if you are on a cash basis, you consider it income WHEN YOU RECEIVE IT. There are only a very few exceptions when the IRS will allow you to be an accural based landlord.

Post: Cash or Accrual Accounting?

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Originally posted by Candace McCutcheon:
I have read from several sources that RE investors MUST use the cash accounting method. Our CPA says this is not true. If the state is important, we are in SC. Can anyone confirm this one way or another? To give insight into my concern... Supposedly, when we sell on owner financing, we must claim the full sales price for that year (cash method). This hardly seems right... why would we have to claim and pay capital gains when we haven't even received the gains? Our CPA is the only person that will tell me we can use the accrual method. One in five makes me nervous. Can somebody please give me a definite answer?

If you sell on a land contract you will pay taxes as you receive the principle and interest over time.

If you sell and you do seller financing, you have received full payment of the sale in the form of a note secured by real estate. You will pay taxes on the gains in the year of sale and taxes on the interest as received over time.

I would urge you to interview some other CPAs. It sounds like the one you have may not be as familiar with the tax laws regarding real estate investing as they might hope to be.

At the end of the day, you and only you are responsible for the accurate accounting and payment of taxes to the IRS. Saying, my CPA said it was okay, has never worked in avoiding penalties and interest.

Post: What is the worst marketing sin?

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Originally posted by Amy Larson:
It looks like you're making one of the marketing sins, Trace. I'm guessing that you didn't read the site's rules and have now got the dreaded "REMOVED" mark on your posts. That can't be good for your marketing efforts. If you can't follow simple rules, why would people want to do business with you?

It would seem that b) would be the appropriate answer here.

Ouch! You could at least offer Trace some ice for that burn! LOL!
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