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All Forum Posts by: Travis H.

Travis H. has started 1 posts and replied 13 times.

Post: Need advice, Permanent Injunction by City of Columbus

Travis H.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Chris Brown:

This is my first post so I’ll try to keep it as succinct as possible. 

We’re in contract to purchase a 4-unit in Columbus, OH. About 2 weeks after our offer was accepted, my bank called and notified me that they discovered a permanent injunction against this property. I came to find out that an undercover police officer purchased narcotics in one of the four units. The injunction was not disclosed by the sellers prior to my offer. This permanent injunction requires the owner of the property to comply with 5 ongoing requirements.

  • 1) Security cameras and lights had to be installed and maintained
  • 2) A lease specified in the injunction must be used moving forward
  • 3) Owner shall not rent to anyone with a felony
  • 4) If another drug but occurs then the property will be boarded up for 6 months
  • 5) All leases must be submitted to the City if requested

Since the discovery of the injunction, my stance has been that I will not complete the purchase unless the seller is able to successfully petition the city to have the injunction lifted. The seller initially tried to explain it away but then agreed to have their attorney petition the city to have the injunction lifted. Apparently, the city verbally agreed after a month. When it came time for the judge to sign the document, the judge declined citing that the city would have no recourse if the injunction was lifted and then the purchase fell apart and these sellers held onto the property.

Any suggestions? And does anyone have a referral for a real estate attorney in Columbus? Currently, the seller’s attorney suggested putting together a “Letter of Intent” stating the city would agree to drop the injunction upon the sale of this property to us. I'm trying to figure out how bad the downside could be.

A few further details to add some context. This property is in a low-income area but on a reasonably safe, heavily travelled street off I-70. For those of you familiar with Columbus, it’s in the Hilltop near Westgate. This property was listed originally in August and we lost to another offer. The sellers claim they fell out of contract with the first buyer due to the buyer losing his job unexpectedly. We’re in contract for under $170K and has the potential to cash-flow very well. There was not any manufacturing of drugs, only distribution.

@Steven J. Umaña is an Attorney in Columbus that specializes in Real Estate. If he can't help you, maybe he can at least point you in the right direction. Good luck! 

Post: City-Data dotcom Interactive Data Map

Travis H.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 4
@Donald Crockett Since getting frustrated myself with city-data, I adopted this area analysis interactive map that works for me statisticalatlas.com Let me know if this helps, happy hunting!

Post: Columbus Subdivisions with Great School Districts but City Taxes

Travis H.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 4

@Steven J. Umana good idea on collecting this data. Dexter Falls has Columbus taxes and is in the Hilliard CSD. I recently purchased a duplex there that I am in the middle of rehabbing for a buy and hold rental. This area boarders Hilliard and Dublin. Also check this out, I am sure there is one for each school district you are interested in, just gotta know where to find them.

Post: First Time Landlord With Some Questions

Travis H.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 4

@Bettina F. Truth, at the very least getting business cards and professional looking stationary goes a long way. We have been working on getting all of our documents together on the computer, then putting them into a binder and a filing cabinet for organization, efficiency and structure. Been worrying about the repercussions of the power shift, pretty sure the previous landlord let them do whatever they wanted to.

Referring to the fire-pit tenants. Based on the current lease that I have in my possession and the copies of deposited rent checks, I don't believe there is any sort of reduction to their current rent. But considering I have no idea what the arrangement was for the previous owner to allow them to install a fire-pit and whatever improvements they made to the house.  What I am concerned with is if they will ask to be reimbursed for everything they have done.

To be honest I am now being swayed to keep the hoarders and release the fire-pit tenants due to them possibly feeling like they are "owed", which would only get worse and their aggressive dog. I would like at least one tenant to stay while I do the renovations to the one unit for some rental income. Decisions, decisions, decisions...

Thanks for the great response!

Post: First Time Landlord With Some Questions

Travis H.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 4

Great points about the regular inspections of the hoarders and the aggressive dog @Joe Splitrock! These are definitely things to consider.

Post: First Time Landlord With Some Questions

Travis H.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 4

@Adam Anstatt, excellent information! This is literally the first time that we will be landlords. So our first experience is very important to us. We do want to come off as professionals not hobbyists. We will be putting them through a screening process. 

Thank you for the recommendation of RentPrep, I appreciate it! Hopefully this will help us streamline the process. I will be checking into them and their podcast this evening.

In fact, I recently purchased The Book on Managing Rental Properties and have been listening to it on my work commutes. Really like all the forms that came with it, makes us feel a lot more comfortable about the whole thing. Shout out to @Brandon Turner and his wife for the great book and added materials! Huge help!

Post: First Time Landlord With Some Questions

Travis H.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 4

Thank you for the response @Adam Anstatt

We were aware of alcohol and drug abuse as being considered as mental disorders, but not hoarding. We will look into that further.

Hopefully it's just a retraining issue not a can't afford the rent issue. Would you recommend that we run them through a screening process (background check, credit check, employment check, et cetera)? Can we even do that considering they already live there?

Post: First Time Landlord With Some Questions

Travis H.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 4

Hello fellow BP members,

I am excited to say that my wife and I are closing on our first buy and hold/house hack duplex today!

So let me paint a picture first. The property we have obtained came with two existing tenants. Both tenants leases are up the 31st of July. We plan on moving into one side of the duplex and update it to bring it up to market rents. We would like to then update the other unit to bring that up to market rents. The property is in pretty good shape and all of the renovations, we would like to do, would only take about 3 months to complete. This time frame is based on me doing everything and only on the weekends.

Now onto the meat of the discussion. I would like to have one of the tenants vacate the property. I understand in the state of Ohio I will have to give them 30 days to do so, after they receive the Ohio Lease Termination Form. I would like them to vacate for many reasons, most importantly is that they are hoarders, have cats with no pet addendum or deposit and have let their side of the duplex fall to disrepair. Plus they are approximately $200 under market rent for this area. The only upside to this tenant is they have consistently paid their rent on time.

My questions for tenant one are as follows:

1) Is the Ohio Lease Termination Form the only thing I need to do to not violate any sort of laws to avoid putting myself in a bad situation?

2) Would you mail them the previously mentioned form or personally deliver it, to avoid it coming off as hostile and to mitigate any further damages done to the property?

3) Is there anything else I must do other than giving the tenant a Ohio Lease Termination Form?

Now on to the other tenants. These tenants on the surface seem wonderful. They have painted the apartment professionally with great colors, installed a permanent stone fire pit in the backyard, maintained the deck and kept a clean yard. Dig a little deeper and you will find that they consistently pay the rent late and are approximately $150 under market value. I am not sure if the reason they pay their rent late is because the previous owner/landlord trained them improperly and never enforced late fees for rent. So instead of paying their rent on time, they consistently decide to put all their personal things first. Or they just can't afford the place. Also, they have a medium sized dog that has aggression issues (was told this personally by the tenant) with no pet addendum or deposit.

My questions for tenant two are as follows:

3) Would you keep these tenants temporarily on a month-to-month lease until you were ready to update their dwelling (i.e., new appliances, flooring, bathroom updates and new windows) and raise it to market rents?

4) If you would keep them, is it appropriate to have them fill out a rental application and follow through with a screening process?

We look forward to hearing everyone's opinions and comments!

One last thing and I know this is something a lot of people don't like to give out, but I am going to ask anyway. If anyone has any good contractors, in the Hilliard, OH area, that they would be willing to let use know about for flooring, windows and painting. We would greatly appreciate it! If I am unable to complete any of the renovations on my own, I would like to have a quality, reliable plan B.

Post: Newbie starting out (Dutchess County, NY)

Travis H.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 4

Hello Andrew, you're welcome...

2) Since the property is most likely going to be a REO, not owner occupied and less than 5 units, you will be getting conventional mortgage.

So from my recent experience, we have a very similar credit score and annual income. I am finding that I am able to get under a 5% interest rate, closer to 4.5% in my market, on a conventional 30 year fixed mortgage with 20% down (to avoid PMI) on a non-owner occupied investment property.

Really the best advice I can give you is to speak with a local banker and be completely upfront and honest with them about your situation and plans. You will obtain the best results this way.

Sounds like, in your situation, if you get the right deal going into the property you should have no problems here.

3) I have not personally bought anything there. Poughkeepsie is a great area, I have friends that live and work there. Certain areas are up and coming, plus there is Marist College. I would also look into areas in Ulster County as well. Like Highland, New Paltz, Kingston, Rosendale, Hurley, Gardiner, Woodstock and Lake Katrine.

Post: Newbie starting out (Dutchess County, NY)

Travis H.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 4

Welcome to the BP community!

I don't have all your answers...

1) I would suggest creating an LLC with any partners involved and clearly defining either persons roles in the very beginning.

2) Could you be more specific on what you mean by "commercial-reasonable". That could mean something different for everyone. But I suggest finding a local bank and having a sit-down with them to discuss your options in detail. Thats the only way you will know. 

3) I am curious to know what part of Duchess County are we talking about? I lived in Kingston for many years and graduated from SUNY New Paltz. I know the Red Hook, Rhinebeck and Milan areas pretty well. 

Ultimately it Sounds like you have the right ideas and just need to pull the trigger on an opportunity. 

I hope some of this helps you out.