All Forum Posts by: Tim Desselles
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Post: New lease when buying a tenant occupied rental?

- Flipper/Rehabber
- Baton Rouge, LA
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I would get them under a new lease regardless of if you have to or not, so that it has your/your company's name on it.
Post: Nicholson Corridor Baton Rouge

- Flipper/Rehabber
- Baton Rouge, LA
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@Patrick Michaels there’s a water treatment plant near there on river road, I’m sure you know the one. It has made that stretch a little difficult for residential.
Post: New Member Introduction

- Flipper/Rehabber
- Baton Rouge, LA
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Hi @Seth Matherne , I'm a BRRR investor in greater BR, properties in EBR, WBR, Livingston and Ascension. Welcome to the club!
Post: Moving to New Orleans - What would you do?

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- Baton Rouge, LA
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@Dan Gerding if you decide to rent instead I know a great 2/2 condo in the Marigny that might be available 😄
The Air BnB option is very restricted in some areas by a recent ordinance , particularly the French Quarter and the Marigny. It’s wrecked a hot sellers market, you might be able to find some relative deals there.
Post: Any Louisiana Lenders ?

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- Baton Rouge, LA
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@Shane Colar Hancock Whitney commercial loan group was slow but got it done, no seasoning period for a CL.
Post: Realistic BRRRR expectations

- Flipper/Rehabber
- Baton Rouge, LA
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Originally posted by @Ryan O'Mara:
@Tim Bradley - 99.99% of all perm lenders offering commercial loans have a seasoning requirement in order to lend off the full appraised value. Otherwise, they will just lend off what you paid for it + verified improvements. Most commercial lenders require you to close in a corporate entity, but there are a few out there that will allow you to close in your personal name.
@Ryan O'mara, you surely know that business better than I do, but I have used two small local banks recently and there were no seasoning requirements for entity properties. This is one reason we purchased those properties in an entity to start with, the commercial lending side didn't have a seasoning requirement.
Post: Realistic BRRRR expectations

- Flipper/Rehabber
- Baton Rouge, LA
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Originally posted by @Tim Bradley:
@Tim Desselles do you have to get a commercial loan against an LLC or can it be under my own name?
You want the property, the insurance and the loan in the LLC's name. You're going to be running a construction site in a residential area, you need to keep your personal affairs separate from the entity so as to shield yourself from any unfortunate liability situations. Most banks won't write a consumer loan in your name if the property is held in an LLC. It's a little tougher but a lot cleaner and safer to do it in the entity all the way through.
Post: Realistic BRRRR expectations

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- Baton Rouge, LA
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@Tim Bradley another thing, with commercial loans there is often no seasoning period. The seasoning requirement comes from Fannie Mae, so it will be included on most all consumer loans so that they can be deemed “conforming” and eligible for sale at a later date. Commercial loans don’t have that requirement unless the bank imposes it in their own lending criteria.
Post: Realistic BRRRR expectations

- Flipper/Rehabber
- Baton Rouge, LA
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Originally posted by @Tim Bradley:
@Leonardo Lacommare I just got my capital together and am placing offers now for my first BRRRR. I have only talked to a couple traditional institutions such as Wells Fargo and CIT bank and both had 6 month seasoning periods for a 75% LTV cash out. They also had an option for immediate cash out 75%LTV but it was on how much cash in you had at close and not ARV. I plan to do some more searching for shorter seasoning periods once I get closer to the need.
The smaller regional banks are often better/easier to work with. Locally here in Louisiana I have used Hancock Whitney and Red River Bank.
Post: Realistic BRRRR expectations

- Flipper/Rehabber
- Baton Rouge, LA
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Originally posted by @Eric M.:
Originally posted by @Tim Bradley:
@Jim Goebel well the plan is to hold long term and the market in Orlando is great. So even if I can't get 100% back rents are increasing and property values are going up too. I haven't heard a horror story yet about about a BRRRR so even if things go south I'm thinking I should still be able to get 80-90% back. I just need to trust the numbers!
You haven't heard a horror story yet because the market has gone in 1 direction. No down cycles. They always come.
Normally I would say that if the tenants are paying the rent, who cares what the market value is since they are being held in the portfolio. I had 2 properties in 2008-2009 that cash flowed just fine and it was nothing to worry about. The trick with BRRRR is if you are doing your projects in an LLC (like you should be), then you have to get commercial loans. CL's typically have to be renewed every 5 years, although the amortization schedule could be much longer. If you have several renewals come due during a market downturn, you could be stuck with the bank not rolling your loans, not enough cash to pay them off, and no buyers at reasonable prices for your properties. This happened to many people in 2008-2009. So keep your loans staggered, keep lots of cash on hand by getting as much back from every project as possible, and make sure you find ways to get great tenants with resilient jobs. Easy to say, tougher to do.