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All Forum Posts by: Paul Thompson

Paul Thompson has started 6 posts and replied 121 times.

Post: New member from Orlando, Florida

Paul ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Little Rock, AR
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 119

@Joshua Phillips welcome to the community. When you move to the area please join our local REIA. it's a great place to make contacts and learn.

www.carreia.com

Do you know what kind of investing you want to do? If you're new to investing and need a good primer check out brandon turner's book "Investing In Real Estate with No (and Low) Money Down". It'a a good place to start along with all the webinars and podcasts on bp.

Paul

Post: Getting started

Paul ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Little Rock, AR
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 119

Welcome to the community. I strongly encourage you to join your local REIA. I don't personally know any of the investors in NWA but I did go to school up there and do believe it a strong market for rentals. Also keep the Central Arkansas REIA in mind. We are having several national speakers this year with classes on Saturdays. Our website is www.carreia.com. Some of them might be worth the weekend trip to come down to Little Rock.

I have very similar goals and game plan as you do. So feel free to contact me directly if you have any specific questions. It's often good to know some investors in the same state but different markets to talk shop with but not feel like you are competing. 

The podcasts and webinars on bp are very good inspiration. Also a book you might enjoy, if you haven't read it already,, is John Schaub's "Building Wealth One House at a Time". It is very much in line with what you described you are doing. I have no affiliation to John other than I have read his books and attended some of his classes.

Best Wishes!

Post: MeetUps - Little Rock, AR

Paul ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Little Rock, AR
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 119

@Mikai Jackson

Welcome to the bp community. This a great resource. Dive into the podcasts and webinars. Also please join us at the local Real Estate Investors Association (REIA).

You can find us here: www.carreia.com

Our next meeting is

Thursday, January 14, 2016

Time: 7:00 PM

Tell us about yourself and what your current goals are in real estate.

Post: Newbie trying to understand the math involved in plex properties.

Paul ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Little Rock, AR
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 119

The method of your analysis appears sound. But I suggest using the desired profit ($100/mo/unit of free cash flow) to back into what you'd be willing to pay for the property. The list price really isn't relevant to you. It's just what the seller has put out there. You won't know if they're willing to move or not until you make an offer.

But you need to solve for some variables first.

1. Property taxes can be found in arkansas from www.arcountydata.com. I assume this property is in Washington county. I've never invested there so not sure how their office works. But typically if you have trouble you can always call them. Most county clerk offices are very helpful if you are polite and friendly. This is a number you don't have to assume. But do be aware it's possible a sell could result in the property being reassessed and could change the number. But even still this is the best figure you're going to find. Round up $100 to be safe. Because they will go up sooner or later.

2. Repair cost. @Brenda E. hit the nail on the head with this question. What kind of condition is the property in and do you need to do any repairs? J Scott has a good book on estimating repairs if you don't have much experience doing this. I've made good use of this and similar books b/c I don't have any construction background and need help installing a light bulb. I have to protect these soft and supple fingertips for typing on the keyboard you see...

3. Regarding management fees I strongly encourage you to run the analysis as though you are paying someone to manage the property. An 8-10% figure is a good ball park. You want to invest in a property that doesn't need "free" property management in order to make money. Otherwise you're locking yourself into having to do it yourself in order to break even or cashflow. Your time is valuable and will become more so as you get older. You make your money when you purchase a property. Back to the chess analogy from a previous post... Know why you're doing what you're doing now so you setup yourself up to back away from the business/property in a few years.

4. Rents. I strongly suggest you run your numbers at current rents. The seller shouldn't be rewarded for not renting at what you think the property could rent for. Always run your numbers and make your offers on as many real numbers as possible. You may be buying for potential but the seller doesn't get to sell to you based on potential. He/she doesn't know how good of a manager you are. He/she didn't realize that potential while they owned it.

In summary provided the property is in good rentable shape this has potential. Rerun your numbers and make an offer based on the NOI. Make the offer contingent on inspection and financing. Don't be afraid of making an offer that's too low. I just had an offer rejected on a plex property yesterday. No worries... they weren't motivated enough to make a deal that is profitable for me. Time is on our side. There's always another deal. Your job is to find the right one that meets your criteria and fits into your plan.

Contact me directly if you have questions. Best of luck and keep plugging away at it.

Post: Plex Property as First Home

Paul ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Little Rock, AR
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 119

Hey @Dustin Hahn

Welcome to the community and real estate investing. Congratulations on thinking like this so young. This is an excellent way to reduce or eliminate your housing costs and truly treat your home as an investment. In spite of some conventional advice a house shouldn't be thought of an investment (unless your approaching things the way you are). 

@Brandon Turner coined this strategy you're considering as house hacking. I've never personally done it but many here on this community have and hopefully can chime in on their specific experiences and lessons learned. 

I'd like to address the general question of "Should I dump more into the equity to refinance for a down payment on the next one? Or should I minimize the monthly payment for more cash flow?" as this applies to whether you're living in the property or not. I think this depends on your goals. 

1. If you want to keep this plex property long term after you move then I'd suggest keeping the cash flow and let your tenants' rents grow the equity gradually over time instead of dumping extra cash into the house to grow your equity faster. It doesn't make sense to put extra cash into equity and then turn around borrow that same money (with interest) as equity from the existing property to acquire another property. Just keep the cash and invest it when you have enough saved up and find a good deal. Cash gives you options and can be spent for whatever is needed. And when you only have one investment property cash is precious and fleeting as you'll probably find out sooner or later.

2. On the other hand if you plan to sell this property in the relative short term (2-3 years) for another larger/better property and have no better place for the extra cash then it isn't a bad idea to put some extra cash into the investment. Just know equity is illiquid and still subject to market swings. This equity can be used in a 1031 exchange for that next property and is tax advantaged at that point. But make sure you keep enough reserves for those unexpected expenses (they're coming I promise you... you don't know when and you don't know how much but oh boy are they coming). 

So as with all questions the answer starts with .... it depends. Do you have a goal or strategy in place yet? I strongly suggest when you buy one deal that you are already thinking about the next 2-5 deals. Maybe not specifically but in concept at least. Set yourself up for the next move like you're playing chess. 

Knight to e5

Having cash leaves your options open. So unless you have a specific plan I suggest hanging on to the cash. You can always pay down the principal later if you have the enviable problem of too much cash. Just consider your other options before you do that.

I'm in Little Rock and went to school in Fayetteville. From what I can tell your market is very strong for rentals and is enjoying steady and reasonable appreciation. Choose your moves wisely and you can do very well.

Best wishes and PM me if you have specific questions. Make sure to check out the local REIA and feel free to join us in Little Rock for our REIA meetings. We have several good national speakers planned for 2016.

check out www.carreia.com for details

Post: Aspiring investor who is graduating

Paul ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Little Rock, AR
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 119

@Ryan Jones

Congrats on thinking about investing so young and welcome to the community. It's a little unclear on where you are going to live. Do you know yet? I strongly suggest investing in the area you are going to primarily live and/or work. I have a rule I will only invest within 1 hour's drive of where I live.

I'm trying to branch out into MF myself and haven't found a deal that meets my criteria in my area thus far. 

In your situation the single greatest advice you can heed is to control your spending, save, and get of debt. And I mean make it your mission to save and payoff that debt. And I mean seriously save (in the order of 50% of your income). Let's say you make ~60K/year then in reality you're AGI will be ~$45K/year. So find a way to live off of $22,500/year. This is your single greatest lesson to take with you before you get used to starbuck's lattes, high lease car payments, mortgage payments, and designer clothing. Oh how I wish I would have learned that lesson sooner. Otherwise you will be shackled to you job and that income for 40 years. These will be soul searching kind of sacrifices but if you choose to accept and execute the challenge and educate yourself and make shrewd, safe investments you can attain financial independence by the age of 35. Maybe even 30.

Think about it...

I'm 38 and now just learning the power of these kind of decisions and I'm hoping I can attain financial independence by 50 because I've created a lifestyle that assumes/requires a certain level of expenses. 1 mortgage, 2 car payments, 2 kids, a decent amount of driving, insurances and having trouble of finding ways to cut expenses any further without becoming a pariah to my family. I'm doing some soul searching now. Let me tell you it isn't easy. Do it now, later or never. It's up to you.

Real Estate is a means to an end (and a good one when used correctly). What are your goals? what are your values? Once you know those then choose, create your plan, and see where real estate investments fit into that plan.

Best of luck and wishes of great success

Paul

Post: New member from Arkansas

Paul ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Little Rock, AR
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 119

Welcome aboard. The local REIA can be found here: www.carreia.com

Next meeting is in January. Come join us. Investing is a team sport.

I'm looking to venture into multifamilies myself. Central Arkansas is a tough market for multifamily I'm finding right now. They are selling at very low cap rates. So hard to find a good deal. But the rental market is strong. Several big developments going on in West Little Rock that might change the dynamic a little. Give me a buzz we can compare notes.

Paul

Post: Little Rock, AR 1031 Exchange

Paul ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Little Rock, AR
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 119

Like @Dave Foster said 1031 is part of the federal IRS tax code so applies the same to all states. 

1031 exchanges are a wonderful tool for investors. But that 45 days can be the fastest 45 days of your life and can force an investor to buy a bad deal due to the time crunch. 

Post: New member living in Arkansas

Paul ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Little Rock, AR
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 119

Join the local Real Estate Investors Association (REIA).

website is www.carreia.com

The November meeting is tonight at 7pm. Check out the website and show up early as the space can fill up quickly.

Post: FLIP FUNDING AVAILABLE!!!!

Paul ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Little Rock, AR
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 119

CJ do you have any referrals or recommendations of clients who have used your services that you can share?