All Forum Posts by: Travis Turner
Travis Turner has started 3 posts and replied 26 times.
Originally posted by @Eric Mielke:
Echoing what @James Wachob said. A poor team in the best area will still yield poor results, and tons of unnecessary stress, more times than not. Being OOS will only exacerbate this stress, since you won't be able to just drive over whenever you want. Because you mentioned COC being your focus, your property manager will be your number one asset. Once you narrow down your locations, call property managers and ask them for referrals from current clients. Also search for "investor friendly" Realtors.
Living and investing in Ohio myself, I recommend Dayton and Columbus both as solid markets. Dayton more so for cash flow, Columbus for population growth and potential appreciation. Since it appears you are just starting out, and given the current market, I recommend focusing on a safe cash flowing property, appreciation being a bonus.
I agree completely.
CoC is primary with slight appreciation being secondary.
The term "investor friendly" mainly means being able to find off market deals or wholesalers correct?
Seems a majority of investors are bypassing realtors and going directly to wholesalers or have bird doggers correct? Or am i mistaken?
Starting out of state, I don't think a BRRRR is wise, so thinking turnkey or something with just cosmetics needed is best. Can't determine the advantage of say investing in a 'D' neighborhood with low barrier to entry vs a 'C' or 'B' neighborhood that might be more $ initially but better tenant pool or tenants that stay longer?
Originally posted by @Lane Kawaoka:
Here is my short list - Birmingham, Atlanta, Indianapolis, St Louis, Kansas City, Memphis, Little Rock, Indianapolis, Greenville, Jacksonville, Tampa, Houston, San Antonio, Little Rock, Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Dayton, Cleveland, Ohio, or other secondary or tertiary markets.
You can't go wrong with any of those... the big thing from there is to find other passive investors and see if you can get referrals.
I have seen people mention most those areas before.
So there is nothing that you look at that would deter you from an area more than any other?
With that list I see, Humidity (rot), tornados, hurricanes and crime as a deterrent for several of those locations that might drive an investor elsewhere. What are your thoughts on those issues?
On the hurricane and tornado issue: what happens if a natural disaster hits a rental? Is the landlord responsible for finding the tenant a place to stay? Can they break a lease if it's not able to be occupied? Does hurricane insurance become a (cost) issue for FL, or the Carolinas?
Sorry for the rant, lots of questions lol...
Originally posted by @Kiera Underwood:
@Travis Turner you may add OKC to your list. We have consistent population growth, you can get into a cash flowing rental for 70k and it will qualify for conventional! It's also a bit under the radar which is nice from a competition standpoint. Good luck!
Do you know any wholesalers or companies with turn key rentals there?
Originally posted by @Jonathan Greene:
I like to start people thinking not about hot markets, but markets where they already have boots on the ground and/or know the area. Where you grew up, where you went to college, other towns or areas you have lived in. When you know the area, you have much more knowledge than learning a completely new city or relying on local experts to help you with city information. I also think that when you mark those areas or add areas where your closest friends or family lives, you have more eyes on the ground and reasons to visit. Building a team from scratch is very hard so if you can hedge your bets a little in one direction it may help you. You can invest in any market, it's always about finding the deals. Just remember that the identification of a hot market means you are too late and should be looking one to two towns over in that market if you are going to hold the properties.
Very well said.
My problem is I'm on the Oregon Coast and have no contacts anywhere but here and other expensive areas.
It would be a dream to have ANY contact (I knew and could trust) as you stated to be able to help with any part of a property out of town.
Therefore it seemed logical to find an area to focus on then start the team building process.
Originally posted by @Kevin Hunter:
@Travis Turner, I am an out of state investor as an active duty military member who primarily lives in expensive markets. I will tell you that while I place a heavy emphasis on the market numbers, I place just as much of an emphasis on where I have the best team. A good team can help offset an average market, but a fantastic market can NOT offset a poor team. Property management, lawyers, realtors, can all make or break an investment. I would look into building a team in each of those markets, and wherever the best one exists is where you want to invest. Good luck!
Very good advice, and I completely agree.
I have no team, nor experience in any of the areas I'm looking into.
I figured it would be best to narrow down the area I want to invest in then start building the team in that location.
Hello.
First post here.
Been watching podcasts and read a few BP books.
Looking to invest OOS in an area with lesser barrier to entry than here on the wedge of the Oregon Coast where 2/1 sfr are $200k+.
Been researching different areas to start narrowing down but unsure how to decide on an area.
These are the areas I have narrowed down
1. Evansville, In.
2. STL
3. Fayetteville, NC
4. Cleveland/Columbus OH.
Interested to hear from others benefits or drawbacks in a particular area.
Mainly focused on COC return and slight appreciation would be nice.
Looking for LTR on a SFR or duplex to start.