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All Forum Posts by: Tyler Fontaine

Tyler Fontaine has started 5 posts and replied 187 times.

Post: Get up, fall, get up, fall , what now !

Tyler FontainePosted
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Quote from @Joe Villeneuve:

First, congratulations are in order here,...but not for a reason you might think.  The best thing that happened to you was not getting that property.  Every step along the way you were making mistakes that would have lead you to disaster:

1 - Don't make all cash offers. The argument for making them is you get a better deal...which is wrong,...it costs you more money. The total cost to the REI is the cash that comes out of your pocket, as long as you have positive CF. If a property is listed at $120k, and you offer all cash and get it for $100k, that property cost you $100k. If on that same property you put up 20% DP, without the discount, that property would have cost you $24k. Remember, with positive CF, the tenant's rent is paying for the rest...not you.

2 - Buying out of town with you first deal.  You don't know what to look for, and don't know anyone in the area to look for you, that you can trust.  If you didn't have an agent that warned you about the property you were interested in, you might have bought it.

3 - Even though that agent warned you about the property, you decided to move forward with it.  Why?  You should send that agent a Christmas card every year saying "thank you".

You seem to be getting a lot of information, from a lot of sources, but no real education...yet. If you are a slow reader, and expect to be ready to buy your first REI within 6 weeks of starting, you're dreaming,...and that dream will be a nightmare. You have a lot of learning to do first, and not from books...from people with experience.

One last thing, keep this in mind at all times, whenever your emotions start to battle logic (math).  Sometimes the best deals you make are the ones you don't.  Learn to walk away,...sometimes run.


 I was going to leave feedback on this post but Joe hit on a bunch of the major things here. Definitely put some serious thought into these and then apply the knowledge. 

In regards to PM, these are good and bad ones out there just like anything else. Hiring a PM is like dating and building a relationship. For real success you should be looking for someone who aligns with your values, philosophies, and you should be shooting to build a long term realtionship.


These people will become a part of your investing team. They should be looked at more so as partners rather than someone that works for you. Eventually these people may know more about your buildings and tenants than you do at a given moment. Allowing them to guide, advise, and coach you through the process. So this should be taken seriously.

It's important to understand that companies core values and principles. Do their investment strategies mirror yours? Do they have systems in place to operate effectively? How do they treat their clients, tenants, and staff? - does it align with how you think things should operate?

Post: Any one have a "Lease Addendum" for rentals that have pools

Tyler FontainePosted
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We have a client we are onboarding for PM. Gorgeous colonial with a huge inground pool in the back.

The clients insurance covers this and such but i'm looking for any addenda that specifically addresses the pool/it's usage/etc. 

Post: Google Business Success?

Tyler FontainePosted
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Also building on this, not sure what business you're in/if you have staff/clients etc... we implemented a rewards program for this exactly. $25 amazon card to any tenant who leaves a review, client, or team member who gets someone to leave a review ;)

Post: Contractor and novice wholesaler looking for connections

Tyler FontainePosted
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"Wholesaling Inc" on spotify is a good podcast and resource

Post: AWESOME cash flow cow

Tyler FontainePosted
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2 years to get your initial investment back... good for you :)

Post: STR appraised $120,000 less than offer

Tyler FontainePosted
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So you definitely need a better realtor then. Thats a huge gap that needs to be covered. Kinda crazy you made it that far. You can offer the $140k and see if they bite. (Unlikely obviously) Regardless if you cant come to terms then you need to back out and get your deposit back. 

That said, my next play would be to get the loan for the $140k and then have the seller hold a second note on the property to cover the difference. If they are willing to do this then there's a solid chance you can negotiate very good terms for yourself with them.

Post: Google Business Success?

Tyler FontainePosted
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Yes, this is something that will take time. Our company is actively building this out to be more robust. However, it is totally worth the work you have to put into it. We have already seen an increase in our presence through searches, direct inbound leads, etc

Find someone or a company that can help you to build out a landing page or site maybe that you can link to the account. Then work with them on what you need to do to SEO and rank better in google. Ask all your friends and family to leave a written review. 

Post: 100% LTV HELOC...should I do it? #Notfinancialadvise

Tyler FontainePosted
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Mmmm I love seeing stuff like this. Good for you on setting yourself up to be in a position like this. 

If I were you I would make a plan on how to allocate the monies. If you can get into a BRRRR, flip, or any type of value add I would strongly consider doing this. You can use the funds as down payments on other Hard or Private monies. Doing this will allow you to recycle your cash as you exit into regular loans on what ever you buy.

Example. You find your next house hack thats a value add (opportunity to increase rents, rehab units, etc.) HELOC lets you get access to Hard/Private$ to buy the asset. Then you can use your monies for rehab cost. Rent. Refi, and pull out the majority of your original capital to put it back into savings, invest again, etc.


As long as you have a plan on how to deploy the capital and the returns beat what ever your interest rate is on the monies you'll be in good shape