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Account Closed has started 29 posts and replied 218 times.

Post: My $8000 problem. Do agents really deserve $200+/hr

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Originally posted by @Joe Kim:

Basically, i've got a lot of differences responses to my honest question.   I really love the  "let me tell you a story"  type of answers which is pretty useless.

From do it all yourself on one end of the spectrum, then $99 SnapFlatFee for listing, ask for discounts/flat fee, to ..90% of you all saying "just shut up and pay...like the rest of us"

Nobody knows a better, more novel way of doing this?

It looks like the best answer is the simple one - find the best agent/PM, pay them well.

Definitely. You asked an honest question and you certainly got some honest answers (whether you like them/agree with them or not). I'd say, the reason you're receiving so many of the same answers to your question is because these are the tried and true methods seasoned and experienced investors use and live by. I think it's safe to say, if there was a "better way" to answer this issue, then someone certainly would've brought it up by now (or, they are keeping it secret and holding it close to their chest.. but I doubt that). 

I know this isn't the answer you are looking for, but I am just suggesting that experience is the best teacher; and it seems like, after reading a few pages of this thread, that those common responses you've received are "the best" we've got right now. Seeing as how there's always a great financial risk in this business, trying out new and inventive ways isn't usually what investors are looking to do. There is a lot to be lost for taking such a risk and it possibly failing. Of course, the pendulum can always swing in the other direction too - you never know.

Talk to some agents in your area. Interview them. Get to know them on different levels. Maybe find one that works exclusively with investors. Keep in mind (as others have already said) they only get paid when the deal closes and 99% of the time they do not get 100% of the commission (broker fees, other agent gets 1/2, photos, lockbox, etc). Also, some excellent agents out there are unable to negotiate their % commission due to the rules of the brokerage they work for. Don't let that be a hinderance. 

Best of luck!!

Post: Thoughts on Adding an Interior Designer to Your Team/Project

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This is a topic that gets tossed around a lot in the investing world, but I personally have never actually seen/read a real in-depth discussion on this aspect of real estate investing: Should you (and why should you) bring in a qualified, professional interior designer onto your investing team or project for a flip or flip and hold?

The Basics:

Before I dive in, I’m going to go back to the basics of business, because this is very crucial and important to remember throughout this post/discussion. The first question when getting started in your investing business is “what are your goals”? This will dictate the answer to the next very important question, which is “how will you run your business?” You can’t be scatter-brained in this business. What is YOUR role as the investor? How much work will you leverage out? What is your end goal? Do you plan on stepping out one day and having someone else fill your shoes and you become just the owner of the company? There are many questions to ask (which we could talk about more in-depth another time). But you really need to know these answers before diving in. I can’t stress this enough: it is extremely important for an investor to know what they are doing in their business. Once you are clear on your goals, it’s important to determine who is going to fill in the parts of your team. There are three key roles in any well-oiled team. The most obvious is the need for a couple different contractors. Ones that can handle big projects, ones that can handle smaller projects, and everything in between. Next, who will or how will you be financing your deal? Getting a loan? Know where your money is coming from. Third having a really good investor-savvy agent who can hunt down and negotiate these deals for you is important.

However.

You are going to have some limitations.

You’ve got a few team members you know and trust, but how many projects can they handle at once? How fast can they move? This is where finding wholesalers, private lenders, and interior designers - all people who are highly specialized in one area - comes into play…

As your business grows, you’ll want to be faster, be more efficient, and control your costs. The more you can control a seemingly uncontrollable environment, the more you will thrive in business and financially. So, to do that, you will want to specialize people as much as possible.

Workflow Example:

Here is an example of how a deal would flow if you had a larger team in which people were specialized to work in one specific area. In this example, the end goal of the investor is to step out and just be an owner of his/her own company.

Your agent finds you a deal. You, the investor, approve it. You go to your private lenders to get funding for the project. You tell your interior designer about the project and your total budget. Your designer then will walk the property and they create a scope of work with materials, what to change, and what to update (electric, HVAC, plumbing, etc). That scope of work is then sent to you and you approve it. The designer then passes it off to the contractor. If the contractor has any questions, they talk to the designer. The contractor rehabs the property according to the scope of work. You re-list the home with your agent and you move on to the next deal.

In this example, everyone does their one job that they do best. Rather than being a “jack of all trades, master of none”, you are controlling your costs, streamlining, and working efficiently. No one has to worry about 100+ tasks or decisions. Everyone gets one job to do really well that they focus on. This also allows you to take on additional projects simultaneously because your focus on each project is just one thing.

That is a general how and why you hire an interior designer.

The Perfect Relationship:

You need to find someone who is willing to plug into your business, not the other way around. For an investor, it is a numbers game. Period. Some designers are not willing to compromise their artistic design choices in order to compensate for your budget. There is nothing wrong with that. Nothing. That is their business and they are successful at it. They are simply just not the right match for you. Remember, there are many business models. They all work. This is why we go back to the basics in the beginning and why it’s important to know what your goals are and what is going to work for you and your business. If one particular designer doesn’t work on your team, it doesn’t mean they were bad or that you were bad, it means that the match was bad. Again, this is why it is critical to lay down your goals and understand how your business is going to work before you put your team together. So many investors have a bad taste in their mouth when it comes to contractors, agents, or other key parts of their business due to bad experiences. But we can save that for another post. The point is to move on from those experiences and continue to find a good match for you to fill that necessary position. This will make your business flow so much better. Know what works for you and make adjustments as necessary.

When adding a designer, factor in about 15-20% of your budget to pay them for their services. When you meet with them, lay out your goals from the beginning and see how they might fit into your business model.

A qualified and experienced designer should also be able to conform to your budget. In other words, your designer can be working on a project where the ARV is $150k one day; then the next day they can be working on a project the ARV is $1.2 million without any disruption. (Here in the South Jersey (SJ) / Central Jersey market, you run into that wide range in a short distance.)

Why A Designer?:

Your designer is crucial. They will be a time saver for you and will also be able to manage the project. They will know what designs will sell in a certain area and when you might need something more custom. They aren’t just for house flippers either. Designers can help create a rental space suitable for any tenant. With a designer on your team, you no longer need to worry about building relationships with suppliers for materials or finding an architect. Your designer has access to all of that and more and they understand how to put all the pieces together so that the project flows like a well oiled machine and everything is completed on time. They handle the project while you are out looking for the next deal.

Some of you may ask, “why hire a designer when my contractor or I can do all this?” A contractor is better at building than picking materials. While some may have an eye for design, remember their job title is ‘contractor’ - not ‘designer’. Someone who does both will be more expensive… or may not actually pick materials that will sell a home and look good. Most contractors just want to do the work. They just want you to send them a scope of work with materials already chosen and - boom - they just get started on the job. While a contractor will also have access to exclusive pricing on materials, a designer’s access to this as well as their keen, trained eye will be paramount in higher-end flips where you will need to have an edge over the competition in order to sell high and fast.

So in conclusion, let’s review: Know the basics of your business. What are your goals? What part(s) do you want to fill? What does your team look like? Having a full team with all positions filled and everyone specialized makes multiple projects at one time possible and seamless. It is important to find someone who fits your business, not you fitting theirs. And lastly, a designer can save you time, money, and countless hours of researching to keep up on latest designs.

And to sum it up into one sentence: the right designer can be your best friend.

Post: New in South jersey flips

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Hi Antonio Vicidomini I am a local investor in south jersey. I am also looking for partners, please send me a message. It would be great to work together. Talk soon, William Lees Jr

Post: New Wholesaler in NJ

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Hi Chris Rusoff There is nothing illegal about wholesaling You are a essentially an off market real estate agent, in the sense that you are selling a property for someone else. When you get your off market deal under contract you are now a buyer of that property and have equitable interest in the deal. This is what gives you the ability to find someone to take your place as Buyer. When you find a buyer to take your place you are merely assigning the contract to them. You could also purchase the property by adding your buyer to the deal. They fund the deal and buy it and then you do a quit claim deed to get them solely on the title, getting your fee at the same time. The reason it is perceived as illegal is because people forget to fully disclose that they are selling the deal to someone else. If everyone is not aware that is when things become complicated. So make sure everyone knows what is going on and you will be perfectly fine. The other thing is to get in contact with your lawyer and have them draw all of your standard contract for purchase of real estate with assigning of the contract as an option. The other thing to understand when wholesaling is construction costs, the biggest thing a lot of wholesalers forget is to correctly assess the property. Hope all this helps, William Lees Jr

Post: New to REI ... questions for those willing to share

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@Jason Sterling

Multi units are a good opportunity for cash flow. The thing to remember is when you go to sell it you are only selling to other investors who want a deal as well which makes it hard to retire on them as a selling point. Obviously holding on to them until the end is more the strategy. The prices always start high for the multis but as they sit on market they become easier to buy and negotiate. So it comes down to a strategy to buy it. 

Wholesalers are another good connection to have to find properties in general. Finding a good wholesaler is hard though. 


Let me know how else I can help,  

Post: New to REI ... questions for those willing to share

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Hi @Jason Sterling

Welcome to the investing world. Looking for your first deal can be daunting but exciting. The first thing I always tell everyone is to make sure you have your goals and visions laid out. It seems you have this done. Next you want to look into what you want to do in real estate. Do you want to solely be the money, do you want to do any rehab, do you want to be a landlord, etc. This will help you find your position in your business. This will help everything run smoothly for you. 

After you have gone through this you can start looking. Rentals on the MLS are overpriced for the most part, but I find that most owners are willing to work with the buyer. Turnkeys are easier to negotiate then rehab projects because the offer can be higher for a turnkey then a rehab (because work needing to be done). For anyone new who doesn't all ready have connections with a construction person or experience with fixing a place up, especially if they have a full time job, I recommend a turnkey investment for the first purchase. When looking for a turnkey (or any investment really) the thing to figure out is what am I buying this property for. Will I want high cash flow, high appreciation, combination of both, will I be using this for retirement. These questions have a lot of impact on your decision. If you are buying for cash flow mainly you are going to look in a town that doesn't necessarily have high appreciation. Opposite goes for high appreciation. If you are buying for retirement you are looking more at the Single family rental market.

So to sum up, I would recommend answering these questions for yourself and then that will help you pick out a place to start looking and help you create a purchasing plan and strategy for your future as an investor. 

Let me know any further questions you may have,

William Lees Jr

Post: Title company south jersey

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Hi Jeff Moore I would highly recommend core title! They are very investor friendly and can get sera he's done in three days. The only thing that would take longer is clearing the title if there is something wrong. Shoot me a PM and I'll send over the contact info. You can go to their website as well. Talk soon, William Lees Jr

Post: Agents in South Jersey

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Hi Fantasia Bowser I am an agent from south jersey and I only work with investors. I'd be happy to help! Please reach out by sending me a private message, William Lees Jr

Post: Burlington County NJ Investors??

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Hi @Kareem E.

A good place to find a lot of local investors in Burlington County is the SJREIA.  I myself have a flip in Marlton. I have a few investors I work with that are investing in Burlington as well. What particularly are you looking for?

Talk Soon,

William Lees Jr

Post: South Jersey Markets

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Hi @Sean Adams

I sent you PM. I'm glad you enjoyed the post.  I look forward to connecting with you!

Talk soon,

William Lees Jr