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All Forum Posts by: Heshel Mangel

Heshel Mangel has started 25 posts and replied 198 times.

Post: Roofstock Case Study

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Originally posted by @Jason G.:

We closed on our first duplex last week.  The duplex was through Roofstock and located in Conyers, GA.  So this makes our fifth Atlanta Market rental and fourth through Roofstock.  The process went extremely smooth, but because we've done it several times already there are no surprises.  The lender we've been using for this and the last GA property has been a pleasure to work with and they are very investor friendly with no odd overlays.   We purchased for 127k w/ 25% down and the total rents are $1,400.  

We had our first tenant leave, a couple of months early, but a new tenant is moving in so we only lost two months total in rent.  The turnover required new carpeting and painting as well as a few other items.  In total it came out to approximately 6k which really killed the numbers for the year.  On a second property the tenant gave notice to non-renew, so hopefully we can fill that vacancy soon, though having a vacancy in winter isn't ideal.  

Currently we have six conventional mortgage slots taken, so we are hoping to add a new property each year for the next four years and then our primary should be paid off giving us another slot.  Looking at options after that it seems that the safest course of action would be just to pay one property off and buy another and keep repeating.  Our goal is to have net annual cash flow of between 200-300k by the time we are 50, which gives us fourteen years to make this happen. 

Congratulations! 

I am amazed that you found a property on Roofstock that's rents for more than 1% purchase price. 

Did the numbers you spent during vacancy fall in line with what Roofstock estimated you'd need to spend based on their inspections and underwriting process? 

Do you have any desire to scale faster than what conventional mortgages will allow? Do your rates get worse with each loan? 

In general, how accurate have you found Roofstock numbers to be now that you can compare with actual costs. 

Originally posted by @Vivek Khoche:

@Mark Moss- My sincere advise is to start from your backyard and then move outward, don't get caught up with dream merchants and their commission agents. I would be more than happy to answer questions about many investment markets I follow and invest.

Good Luck

Vivek

PS: I have nothing to sell and don't get commission on any recommendation

 See, the problem I, and many others like me have with this, is I live in NYC. I cannot start in my backyard as a rental property investor with the goals I am looking to achieve. Obviously, I can invest in other people, but I can not buy a property on my own in NYC. 

Originally posted by @Ali Boone:

Whether or not doing it as a first investment or not....that completely depends on what and how you are buying. If you do it right, I think it can be a great first investment! Technically that's how I started and have always done it ever since.

There are various layers/levels of companies similar to Roofstock and HomeUnion. I'm not personally a fan of how those companies are structured, but I have used other companies with slightly different structures for all my properties and I highly recommend the method as a whole. 

Experiences--everything has been fine other than property management drama. 

I do agree numbers can be better elsewhere from J-ville, but J-ville can actually cash flow. So much so, there is a turnkey provider. it's on the lower end of positive returns for sure, but it would be local for you. So just have to weigh the pros and cons of returns vs. investing non-locally.

 Would you mind sharing what those other companies you've used are? Which ones would you recommend? 

Originally posted by @John Barr:

I have been asked a lot both on Bigger Pockets as well as within my networks as to what my opinion is on the San Antonio market on where an investor should focus based on the type of deals they are looking for. This had been information that I only sent to someone that has contacted me and asked for it. I have recently been asked more and more and I figured it was time to just share my knowledge with the entire BP community.

In this post, I am going to break down the entire city based on my opinion of our market. My opinion is based on my knowledge and experience in the REI industry. Check out my profile if you are wanting to know more about me and my experience.

San Antonio is a very diverse market with a transportation system that has made our city much different than any other. Most other cities that I have studied have some of the best most expensive real estate closest to downtown. This is not the case as San Antonio currently sits. I agree with people in saying invest where the jobs are as people don’t want to drive an hour to work and fight traffic if they can help it. San Antonio, because of the military, built their roads system in the shape of a wagon wheel with major interstate and highways feeding our downtown area.

What this has caused is having the ability to live where you want to live as you can travel to pretty much every major employment district within 20 minutes without having to fight much traffic. You can see the effect this has had on our real estate pricing as some of the cheapest real estate you can find are right around our downtown area. I think the reason for this is because commercial developers could very easily build new building further away from the downtown corridor because the price of land and construction is more affordable. Taking those points into consideration is why I think our nicer more expensive homes are 10-20 miles from our downtown area.

So now that you have some background on the San Antonio market lets get to what deals come from where.

Rentals

I classify a rental property in San Antonio as something to produces enough cash flow that it is a self-sustaining investment. Meaning it covers property management and a CAPEX of 10% of the rental price. This usually means there is at minimum $250/month in cash flow over PITI if you are leveraging. We have always seen the best rental properties coming from the suburbs.

The NW/W and the NE/E are where we see and have done the majority of our rental property deals. Although as of lately we see a lot more coming out of the NE/E where the rent to value percentages are higher. Here is where I would go for the good ole fashion boring rental property that you can slowly build wealth, preserve it, and can retire on.

I like the areas following the 35 corridor because of the growth towards Austin. These would be the zip codes in the NE/E. This isn’t a blanket statement as there are still a few areas where I wouldn’t be looking to buy properties mainly in the East.

78244 – Just need to watch which neighborhood

78233

78217

78109 – Just need to watch the area

78239

78247

For the NW/W side

78250

78251

78245 – Just stay inside 1604 as you get outside the houses get a lot newer

78238 – Just watch the neighborhood

78240

Appreciation

Now for what most investors only look for is appreciation. If I had to make a bet on appreciation this is where I would go to get that exciting, risky, appreciation that you could quickly build wealth on. These are trends that I am seeing that I would bet on but they are still very dependent on the state of the economy and availability of funding for the renovation of commercial and city projects. So, while things look good there are projects that could get scrapped that could really mess an investment up.

Inside North 410. Areas are seeing a lot of movement with the older homes that are not historical. This area also pulls decent rents so you may be able to get some cash flow in these areas. Where we are seeing the most growth right now is along the major highways moving in. I like this area because as the downtown area is undergoing its revitalization you are seeing more and more people wanting to move closer to downtown which is showing growth moving to the North. Now along 410, people tend to like it because you can get the urban feel but still have easy access the 410 and the North side of the city. We are seeing that growth moving south because of the cheaper prices.

78213

78216

78212

78201

78230

Along 281 to the East and West, inside 1604. North of 1604 along 281 is the Stone Oak area where some of the best suburb style houses are. They are starting a five-year renovation of 281 outside 1604 taking out the stop lights adding 6 frontage road lanes, 6 expressway lanes, 2 HOV lanes, and flyovers connecting to 1604. Traffic is already extremely congested in this area and this is going to make it much worse for the next half decade or until the project is complete. Combine that with what is all going on downtown I am betting that you are going to stop seeing as much appreciation outside 1604 and start seeing it come back south along the 281 corridor to downtown.

78247 – lowest months of inventory in the city

78232

78216

High-risk High-Reward

Now for low-end big bets. Some of the cheapest real estate in the city is just to the east and west of downtown. Much like the east side of Austin was but now is some of the most expensive in the city. You can find cheap houses down there but there is no telling if they are ever going to take off in values. Some areas already are, and you are seeing houses being flipped for good profits. I know a lot of Austin people are buying property on the east side betting San Antonio to do the same as Austin did.

The only problem is they are betting on that to be their only strategy. This is pushing prices up on the initial purchase price but then they are just sitting on the properties not doing the renovations. If too many people buy these houses and never do anything with them it could affect the appreciation growth. There are a lot of projects that are in the cities plan and by private developers, but they are slow to take off. If these projects take off and are successful I would see these areas do well but you have the reverse side of that as well as they have been slow-moving projects. I would want to buy a property that at least still makes sense in today’s market. Get something that is at least livable that you can rent out and get a return on.

78207

78210

78203

78202

78204

78208

78234

As far as south side goes, which I describe as anything south of HWY 90 and downtown, I really don’t know much about it to give a good analysis. I do know that is where you see a lot of seller financing going on and your low end rentals (less than $1,000 Rents). I am starting to hear about pockets that are starting to do well but nothing that has made me want to venture to these areas. That said it is definitely something to keep an eye on as the city continues to infill and the city pushes for a more vibrant downtown.

Well there you have it. That is my opinion on the San Antonio market and what type of deals come out of where.

If you are interested in more information I put a market report out every month that follow what pricing is doing in what areas of the city.

Head over to my profile for my contact information if you are interested in learning more.

 This is amazing, thank you so much for this information. 

The first thing that jumps out to me, as I am looking at a property in 78244 which is the first zip on your list. You write to watch which neighborhood in that zip. My property is in the candlewood park area. Are you able to share any details on that neighborhood with regards to buying as a rental?

Thank you!

Originally posted by @Ted Woolley:

I've been an investor in San Antonio for many years and now live in Petaluma CA. I invest in the Alamo Heights and Monte Vista areas north of downtown. It's been a great market for me. Happy to answer any questions.
Also, I have a great investor savvy real estate agent who is also a fantastic property manager. PM me if you'd like her contact info.
Best of luck
Ted

How has your experience been investing in those areas? I would need a great PM to be my boots on the ground as well so would love some recommendations. 

Originally posted by @Brian Phelt:

Hello Christina,

Welcome to BP, and great job on asking some good questions.   The answer to a lot of what you are asking is dependent on your strategy.  Are you looking to buy and hold for appreciation or cash flow?  Or both?  

The northwest side is a booming side currently.  I manage a lot of homes on this side of town and rental rates continue to climb (good for my investors). For the price range you listed you can get something nice but not large.    The northeast side has pockets that are nice as well, especially closer to Randolph AFB.  

The market here is doing well, the key here is to screen the deals to make sure the numbers work for whatever strategy you are pursuing. 

Feel free to reach out if you have any more questions. 

Best of luck as you begin your journey.  

 Hey, sorry to harp on this after a couple years, I am just going through some San Antonio threads looking for some advice/tips. I am looking at a property in the NE area of SA, in the Candlewood Park area. I am wondering if you would be able to shed a bit of light on the area and the rental market around there?

Thank you so much!

Post: Kansas City Turn-Key Available

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@Nick McKinnis

Would you be able to info me more information about this property?

[email protected]

Thanks!

Post: DON'T GET BRRRned... Minimize Your Risk!

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@Nicole Hoss

Would you be able to email me more information about this property? I'd love to see that inspection report, tenant ledger, neighborhood information. 

[email protected]

Post: Occupied duplex for sale in Cleveland, OH

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Can you email me more info about this property. Condition, rents, neighborhood. 

[email protected]

Post: San Antonio

Heshel MangelPosted
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Hi all, 

I am going to jump onto this thread, looking for some advice/tips. I am a new OOS investor looking at a property in the Candlewood Park area (zip 78244). I am wondering if any investors/agents/PM's can share some info on that area in terms of neighborhood, what rents go for there, if there is a rental market in that area, and what long-term growth looks to be in that area. 

Any info at all is greatly appreciated. I'd also look to get in touch with local Property Managers who would be able to be my boots on the ground in that location. 

@Brad Larsen