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Robert Naucke Jr
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Ways Around Accredited Investor Qualifications

Robert Naucke Jr
  • Festus, MO
Posted Mar 15 2018, 08:21
How do you get around this government implemented hurdle? I have recently started a solo401k, so I have 83,000 sitting there that I would like to invest. I would like to use one of the online platforms like crowdstreet, patch of land, or one of the others......but they only allow accredited investors correct? Also I know it is against SEC regs for people to ask “strangers” when raising money to invest, but is it ok for me to reach out to strangers if I’m interested in investing with them? Also, I believe you can raise funds from friends and family without them being accredited, if I’m FB friends with someone would that make it ok for them to use my $? PS, this accredited threshold is way to high!!!!!

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Robert Naucke Jr
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Robert Naucke Jr
  • Festus, MO
Replied Mar 15 2018, 08:23

Sorry for the one paragraph, I had spaces in my post, not sure where they went.

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Jonathan DiBenedetto
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Jonathan DiBenedetto
  • Los Angeles, CA
Replied Mar 15 2018, 08:45

Check out groundfloor.us - they do not require accredited status.

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Jay Hinrichs#2 All Forums Contributor
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Jay Hinrichs#2 All Forums Contributor
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Replied Mar 15 2018, 08:53

there are NO way around them if its a requirement of a certain fund or company . Search for those that allow non accreds they are out there.

in our world we do ONE note one investor and you don't have to be accredited.. although usually a waiting list to get a note but they get filled in 30 to 45 days..

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Temitope Adebayo
  • Missouri City, TX
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Temitope Adebayo
  • Missouri City, TX
Replied Mar 15 2018, 08:55

@Robert Naucke Jr, most of the crowdfunding companies don't require accreditation but i would thread carefully and read their reviews. It's usually not easy fro a newbie to get funding unless you have someone to back you.

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Larry Fried
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  • Eugene, OR
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Larry Fried
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  • Eugene, OR
Replied Mar 15 2018, 11:30
Originally posted by @Temitope Adebayo:

@Robert Naucke Jr, most of the crowdfunding companies don't require accreditation but i would thread carefully and read their reviews. It's usually not easy fro a newbie to get funding unless you have someone to back you.

 This is incorrect.  Most crowdfunding offerings DO require accreditation, even while there is an increasing number of offerings that don't.

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Temitope Adebayo
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Temitope Adebayo
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Replied Mar 15 2018, 11:48

@Larry Fried @Robert Naucke Jr

Thanks Larry for the correction, well taken.

I found your article, please can you give me more details about this company. Thanks.

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Michael Bishop
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Michael Bishop
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Replied Mar 15 2018, 22:49

@Robert Naucke Jr, the requirement that one must be accredited to invest in certain alternative asset classes is regulated by the SEC, so no, no way around it... unless that person/company wants to go to jail. While many agree the accredited status is high, there are reasons for it (namely to protect everyone involved, especially the investor) and the SEC has also allowed non-accredited/sophisticated folks to invest in these types of deals through a different structure - the 506(b).

It is 100% okay for you to reach out to Sponsors or other people putting together the deals you're referring to. In fact, that is the ideal situation for Sponsors/those raising money. Requirements will still be the same though - past relationship, understanding of investments knowledge/accredited status, etc. The SEC doesn't put steadfast rules on it (i.e. "Sponsor must know investor for 21 days exactly before presenting them with an investment opportunity"), but some guidelines are in place that all Sponsors/Operators in the space will follow.

That being said, you're best off finding a Sponsor who may offer investments structured as 506(b) if you really want to get in to the space. Keep in mind though that most have a minimum investment of $50K-$100K with hold periods anywhere from 3-10 years (ish, this varies of course), so you'll be tying up a good chunk of your solo401k as most of the time it's advised that these types of deals be considered "illiquid."

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Nate R.
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  • Austin, TX
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Nate R.
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  • Austin, TX
Replied Mar 16 2018, 07:53

Some sponsors have a different interpretation of the rules. I reached out to one recently. Because I'm not accredited, one of them would only consider me for a Reg D. 501(b) offering. But since I don't have a "pre-existing relationship" with them, they won't accept my money. I was hoping that we could start a "relationship" (that sounds funny every time I say it, lol) for future offerings but I guess not. :-/

You should just look into buying some crowdfunded REIT's like Fundrise or Realty Mogul's eREIT. If you only have $83k to invest, that's not going to get you into many deals, so you're not going to have a lot to choose from. At least with the REIT's you get diversification and the minimum is very low.

As far as pooling money with others, all people in the deal have to be accredited. I guess many of these offerings allow you to "self-certify," but I would never suggest lying about your accreditation status.

Check out https://www.therealestatecrowdfundingreview.com/.

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Nate R.
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Nate R.
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Replied Mar 16 2018, 07:57

Another one is Rich Uncles, which is focused on commercial RE. Check those REIT's out, I think they're good deals for aspiring investors.

On the other hand, if you are really determined, I would suggest not only networking with sponsors you find on here or online, but joining a mentoring group like Lifestyles Unlimited, as that way you can establish relationships with people doing deals, plus you can learn a lot about how multifamily real estate and syndications work.

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Jillian Sidoti
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Jillian Sidoti
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Replied Mar 19 2018, 13:11

Realty Mogul and Fundrise both have offerings that do not require you to be accredited. I would check them out. 

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Replied Sep 6 2018, 22:18

@Jillian Sidoti I got really excited reading about Realty Mogul and Fundrise and others but then I read that if you aren't an accredited investor you can only invest 5% of your earnings!  I want to invest significantly more and right now 5% of my earnings is just a waste of time.  Do these sites check your income?

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Connor O'Brien
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Replied Jul 25 2021, 19:21

Anyone still losing money due to lack of accreditation? I’m currently going through primerica to get my series 65. 

Anyone else interested in this?