Paying full amount with cash and then refinancing

Paying full amount with cash and then refinancing

Rental Property Investor · Churchville, MD · Member since 2020 · 60 posts · 65 votes

Is it possible to buy a multifamily outright with cash and then heloc it to recoup your money for the next investment?

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Rental Property Investor · DFW, TX · Member since 2013 · 953 posts · 910 votes
5y

@Jessica Piff You can get a line of credit on rental property in the form of a second lien deed of trust (at least thats what they are called in Texas). Everyone on BP throws out the term HELOC but it is a specific credit line based on a personal home usually for making improvements or putting in a pool. A bank can give you a line of credit based on any form of collateral they deem worthy. I could go out and get a line of credit on a fleet of 747s and people on BP would call it a HELOC. It may be difficult to finance something like that but I'm sure its doable. Just gotta find the right bank and terms.

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  • Brad HammondBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Portland, OR · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 605 votes
    5y

    Hey @Jessica Piff, It is very common to purchase a property with cash (to beat out other offers, get a better price, etc) and get a loan on the property afterward.  HELOCs are usually with an owner-occupied property so you will probably be looking to refinance it instead.  Check with a few lenders to make sure everything will work out the way you are planning so you aren't stuck halfway through your process.  

  • Rental Property Investor · DFW, TX · Member since 2013 · 953 posts · 910 votes
    5y

    @Jessica Piff You could but it kind of defeats the purpose because now you are paying interest on your equity when you use the LOC. Probably jut a cash out refi would work for what you're thinking but yes you could do it just remember you will pay closing costs twice so unless you're paying cash for a specific reason, its usually cheaper to just get financing up front. Then wait a few years for appreciation and then try to get a line of credit

  • Rental Property Investor · Churchville, MD · Member since 2020 · 60 posts · 65 votes
    5y

    @Peter M. @Brad Hammond

    Thanks for your responses! I am paying cash because the home is only 35K. I thought that I have heard you can HELOC an investment property, but perhaps I misread that.

    Would I be able to refinance a 35K house? I'll be reaching out to smaller local banks this week to see what our options will be. 

  • Rental Property Investor · DFW, TX · Member since 2013 · 953 posts · 910 votes
    5y

    @Jessica Piff You can get a line of credit on rental property in the form of a second lien deed of trust (at least thats what they are called in Texas). Everyone on BP throws out the term HELOC but it is a specific credit line based on a personal home usually for making improvements or putting in a pool. A bank can give you a line of credit based on any form of collateral they deem worthy. I could go out and get a line of credit on a fleet of 747s and people on BP would call it a HELOC. It may be difficult to finance something like that but I'm sure its doable. Just gotta find the right bank and terms.

  • Colleen F.Pro Member
    Investor · Narragansett, RI · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    5y

    @Jessica Piff  For an investment property you likely need 20% down so that makes your loan very small for a bank.Small loans banks need to hold in house they can't sell. There are some people who have mentioned investment HELCO like products I don't know of anyone who does them, maybe a private lender. Is this a value add where you would rehab and the house is worth more?

  • Rental Property Investor · Churchville, MD · Member since 2020 · 60 posts · 65 votes
    5y

    @Peter M.

    This makes sense, it would be a line of credit with the home as collateral, but not necessarily a "HELOC". Thank you!

    @Colleen F.

    I will not be rehabbing this home. It's a fully rented property with long term tenants in there. I won't have a loan on it as I'm buying it outright for 35K. 

  • Colleen F.Pro Member
    Investor · Narragansett, RI · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    5y

    @Jessica Piff  to phrase it differently your max loan regardless of form is likely $28,000.00 so it would need to be an inhouse loan for a bank. They usually sell loans and they wouldn't be able to sell yours so a credit union or local bank may entertain a refinance but do your research. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Churchville, MD · Member since 2020 · 60 posts · 65 votes
    5y

    @Colleen F.

    Thank you, 28K would suffice for us. I am contacting local banks about in house loans this week. We just want to scale quickly and believe this strategy could work for us. I've seen/heard it done by others so we just need to find a lender who we can build a relationship with and do this ourselves!

    Thanks again! 

  • Rental Property Investor · Torrance, CA · Member since 2016 · 724 posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    @Jessica Piff

    Pen Fed Credit Union does HELOC on investment properties. I have one with them. That's the only bank I know of that does them.

  • Rental Property Investor · Churchville, MD · Member since 2020 · 60 posts · 65 votes
    5y

    @Account Closed

    Thank you, I will give them a call!

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