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evicting tenant who refuses to leave the property

Jason Forman
Posted Dec 2 2021, 08:06

Hi All,

I have a lead that is priced pretty well but it has a tenant who hasn't been paying since before covid.  The tenants don't speak English so I'm assuming the cash for keys will be pretty difficult.  Let's say cash for keys isn't an option.  What is the process like to evict a tenant.  How long does it take?

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Scott M.
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Replied Dec 2 2021, 08:10

what county/state is the property in?

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Replied Dec 2 2021, 08:13

The property is in West Philly Kingsessing area @Scott M.

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Replied Dec 2 2021, 08:22

Depends on area.

Try taking an interpreter over. Maybe Hire and off duty police officer who speaks Spanish. This might motivate them to pay or move. 

You could also use Google translate.

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Replied Dec 2 2021, 08:41

@Jason Forman The biggest factor in this is going to be if they have an existing lease or not. If they do typically evictions take around 6 months with the way the city has been lately. It'll take much longer if they don't have a lease and thats called an ejection which can take upwards of a year.

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Jason Forman
Replied Dec 2 2021, 08:43

The lease period ended so lease is no longer valid @Dan Powers


but that’s good to know 

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Replied Dec 2 2021, 08:49

@Jason Forman when did the lease end? If it was "recent" (I don't have a good cutoff for that) then you may be able to claim they were bound by the lease and did not leave upon non-renewal. If notice of non-renewal was never given then it could be trickier, but worth a shot. Like @Dan Powers said, it is much better to go for an eviction than an ejectment in the city. 

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Replied Dec 2 2021, 08:56
Originally posted by @Dan Powers:

@Jason Forman The biggest factor in this is going to be if they have an existing lease or not. If they do typically evictions take around 6 months with the way the city has been lately. It'll take much longer if they don't have a lease and thats called an ejection which can take upwards of a year.

 In case I forget, will someone please remind me to never buy in Philly?

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Replied Dec 2 2021, 09:02

If your're comfortable, walk up to the door and I can interpret over the phone.  (I was a police intepreter).  provided this doesn't turn into daily conversations with them :)  Assuming Spanish here.

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ModeratorReplied Dec 2 2021, 09:53

I would not negotiate with someone that doesn't pay rent for two years and doesn't speak the language. I don't think I need to explain the risks.

I have some suggestions, none of which are technically legal, so I'll just recommend you find a different deal.

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Replied Dec 2 2021, 12:17
Originally posted by @Dan Powers:

@Jason Forman The biggest factor in this is going to be if they have an existing lease or not. If they do typically evictions take around 6 months with the way the city has been lately. It'll take much longer if they don't have a lease and thats called an ejection which can take upwards of a year.

 Although I am not surprised, this is still jarring to see. It is truly not worth the risk of renting to people who have nothing to lose. This is something we all know as landlords, but if you ever doubt why you have strict screening criteria remember situations like this. 

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Matt M.
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Replied Dec 2 2021, 16:38

Good luck. Hopefully the property isn’t in the drug zone of Kensington.

I’ve seen video after video of the “zombies” of Kensington.

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Replied Dec 3 2021, 07:03

Require that the current owner provide this property empty before you consider making a bid on it.

Sometimes one should wonder why a landlord/investor might wish to sell a property.  There can be many reasons but one might be a problem tenant that they are tired of dealing with and want to dump on someone else.

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Replied Dec 3 2021, 07:09

So my wife and I sorta went through this about a month ago. The tenant wasn't paying and the landlord was done trying. The house was for sale by the owner. We called and got all the info and I told her my idea to get them to move she agreed to it and we signed a PA. So I then put my plan in motion. We wrote up contract cash for keys. 2000 if out by 7 days. 1500 if out by 14, and so on until 30days with a 0 being given after that. They were out in 5 days. Hope this helps.