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Kelly Conrad
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St. Paul required inspections for non-owner occ. MFH

Kelly Conrad
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Posted Aug 31 2017, 17:10

Hello! I want to be sure I have everything ready to go. We close on a duplex in St Paul on October 5th, and we want to be sure we hit the ground running. St. Paul's site isn't exactly explicit on everything you need, so is it just the Fire Certificate of Occupancy? If so, can that be done before closing or does it have to be done after? 

I know the city of Minneapolis requires a landlord license, but that doesn't seem to be the case in St Paul from what I'm seeing. If there's anything else required to be a legal landlord in St Paul, I'd love to know :)

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Michael Tempel
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Michael Tempel
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Replied Sep 4 2017, 07:23

This is the best link I found:

https://www.stpaul.gov/departments/safety-inspecti...

I agree, there isn't a lot of info to go off on the city website.    

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Replied Oct 9 2017, 20:43

@Kelly Conrad   I hope you found what you need.  This page should be Helpful.  https://www.stpaul.gov/departments/safety-inspecti...  

You apply, and then they come out to inspect.  This page has a pre-inspection checklist.  Make sure you score 100% on the checklist and you will get an A rating.

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Kelly Conrad
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Kelly Conrad
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Replied Oct 9 2017, 20:46

looks like before you can schedule the fire occupancy check you have to complete the Landlord 101 class, which isn’t super clear on their site...next class isn’t until January 2018 and so I’ll have to keep my eyes peeled for the next scheduled posting

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Replied Oct 9 2017, 21:02
Originally posted by @Kelly Conrad:

looks like before you can schedule the fire occupancy check you have to complete the Landlord 101 class, which isn’t super clear on their site...next class isn’t until January 2018 and so I’ll have to keep my eyes peeled for the next scheduled posting

 So in order to rent a property that you just bought, you have to complete a class that is only offered quarterly? Am I reading that right?

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Kelly Conrad
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Kelly Conrad
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Replied Oct 10 2017, 06:31

@Account Closed It's going to be rented before I can get the license it seems...it looks like you have to complete the class before you can schedule the inspection, which sucks. I can't wait that long as it's completely unreasonable to do so :-\

In case anyone is curious, here is the info from the City of St. Paul: https://www.stpaul.gov/departments/safety-inspecti...

It also looks like there is a Crime-Free class which when completed, apparently if your tenants are causing problems an officer will come out and completely remove the tenant? It was required in Coon Rapids and they thought St. Paul required it too (not seeing that anywhere, maybe it's a chance coming soon?). It looked interesting either way, but definitely not major like this Fire certificate... https://www.stpaul.gov/departments/police/crime-free-multi-housing-program/crime-free-multi-housing-training

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Replied Oct 10 2017, 09:24
Originally posted by @Kelly Conrad:

@Account Closed It's going to be rented before I can get the license it seems...it looks like you have to complete the class before you can schedule the inspection, which sucks. I can't wait that long as it's completely unreasonable to do so :-\

In case anyone is curious, here is the info from the City of St. Paul: https://www.stpaul.gov/departments/safety-inspecti...

It also looks like there is a Crime-Free class which when completed, apparently if your tenants are causing problems an officer will come out and completely remove the tenant? It was required in Coon Rapids and they thought St. Paul required it too (not seeing that anywhere, maybe it's a chance coming soon?). It looked interesting either way, but definitely not major like this Fire certificate... https://www.stpaul.gov/departments/police/crime-fr...

That would kill me if I just bought my first rental and then had to sit on it empty because they only offer a necessary class every few months. I guess this means you DO YOUR HOMEWORK! I would call someone from the city and see what your options are.

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Replied Oct 10 2017, 09:32

I own a rental in North St. Paul and they’re similar (Ramsey County). As long as you apply and get an inspection scheduled, they’re not going to hassle you already have renters. They’re not out to ruin a business, just to make sure the place is safe and livable.