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Christopher Rubio
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How Do You Vet a Property Manager Before Buying Out-of-State?

Christopher Rubio
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Hi BP community,

I’m new to investing and currently looking at out-of-state rentals in the $80–125K range. My biggest hesitation right now isn’t finding a deal — it’s making sure I can trust the people managing it once I buy.

I’ve read (and been told) that a good property manager can make or break the experience, especially for remote investors. That makes me wonder:

  • What’s your process for vetting a property manager before you even close on a deal?
  • Are there specific questions you always ask in the interview?
  • Any red flags to watch out for that might not be obvious to a first-time investor?
  • Do you usually get referrals through agents/contractors, or do you prefer to find PMs independently?

I know I’ll need to build the rest of my team (agent, contractors, etc.), but I feel like starting with the PM could help me move forward with more confidence.

Would love to hear from those of you who’ve been down this road already — what worked, what didn’t, and any lessons learned.

Thanks in advance,

CR

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Michael Smythe
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@Christopher Rubio

We’re a Property Management Company (PMC) and we’ve seen owners make the same mistakes, over & over again when looking to hire a PMC – which drives us nuts!.

In our experience, the #1 mistake owners make is ASSUMING all PMCs offer the exact SAME SERVICES and PERFORM those services EXACTLY THE SAME WAY.

So, owners mistakenly think price is the only differentiator – and look for a PMC like they’d shop for groceries☹

We encourage you to learn from the mistakes of others by reading posts here on BiggerPockets from owners that picked a PMC solely by price and regretted it.

We recommend exploring as many sources as possible to get referrals AND cross-reference them to get as much accurate information as possible.

Check out NARPM.com, BP’s Property Manager Finder (BiggerPockets: The Real Estate Investing Social Network), etc.

Even if someone gives you a referral, do NOT make the mistake of assuming that just because a PMC met their expectations, they’ll meet your expectations. We all have our own expectations and what works for someone else, may not work for you.

If you’re new to all of this, it's often a case of not doing enough research, as you don't know what you don't know!

So, ask more questions!

EXAMPLE: PMC states they will handle tenant screening – what does that specifically mean? What documents do they require, what credit scores do they allow, how do they verify previous rental history, etc.? You’d be shocked by how little actual screening many PMC’s do!

This also leads owners to ASSUME simpler is better when it comes to management contracts.

The reality is the opposite - if it's not in writing then the PMC doesn't have to provide the service or can charge extra for it!

A well written management contract should clearly spell out what is expected of both the PMC and the owner, to PROTECT both and avoid misunderstandings. Why do you think purchase contracts are so long and have such small print?

We recommend you get management contracts from several PMCs and compare the services they cover and, more importantly, what they each DO NOT cover.

EDUCATE YOURSELF - yes, it will take time, but will lead to a selection that better meets your expectations & avoids potentially costly surprises!

P.S. If you just hire the cheapest or first PMC you speak with and it turns into a bad experience, please don’t assume ALL PMC’s are bad and start trashing PMC’s in general. Take ownership of your mistake and learn to do the proper due diligence recommended above😊

Here’s some articles we’ve contributed to BiggerPockets about screening a PMC BETTER than you would a tenant!

20 Questions to Ask When Vetting a Property Management Company: Processes

13 Questions to Ask to a PMC: Communication and Documentation

24 Questions to Ask When Evaluating a Property Management Contract

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