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All Forum Posts by: Logan M.

Logan M. has started 136 posts and replied 728 times.

Post: Owner Financed Heber City Land

Logan M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 737
  • Votes 620

Where in Heber is this?

Post: Four ways I have lost money investing in mobile home parks

Logan M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 737
  • Votes 620
Quote from @Account Closed:

Fires are a nightmare, especially when they're preventable. And bad tenants? Ugh, don't even get me started. It's like playing Russian roulette with your income. And accepting deposits through a non-profit? Yeah, sounds like a recipe for disaster. Lesson learned, I guess. And about those deposits for nice homes? Totally get it. People can be real jerks sometimes. Here's hoping things turn around for you soon, buddy.


 Fortunately, we are always learning. I bought my first park in 2018 and in each community I have learned something new.

Post: Private Money loan

Logan M.Posted
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  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 737
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Quote from @Jordan Moorhead:
Quote from @Henry Sims:

Hey, BP land, I have a quick question for you all. I have a friend who sold his mobile home park so he could retire. He wants to make a little more on his money than a CD will provide. I'm looking to scale my business and would like to borrow some of his money to do so. Not sure how I need to do so. We came up with a loan for 6-8 months while I remodel a house I have. He is good with receiving 10% on his money paid out when I sell the house. In this instance, I'll borrow $80,000 and pay back $88,000. What paperwork do we need to secure his loan against the house? Will a simple notarized agreement between my LLC and him work? How do I need to receive the money? Should we do a joint bank account with the funds? Any help will be greatly appreciated.


 You should have bought the mobile home park on seller financing from him!


 Amen to that!

Post: Four ways I have lost money investing in mobile home parks

Logan M.Posted
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  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 737
  • Votes 620
Quote from @Dave Rav:

Logan, another good post.  Thank you..

I have some input and commentary:

#1 Fires, I have lost three homes to fires. Two were caused by humans. I should have insured the homes, sold them, or done something to mitigate this risk.  we too have been through this.  Fires are no fun.  I believe I posted on a previous thread.  

#2 Selecting bad tenants, there is nothing worse than selecting a tenant that pays you a deposit and months' rent then refuses to pay you again.  screen, screen, screen.  We've learned (and continue to learn) it's all about screening.  From that first contact with the tenant, it's like an interview.  

#3 Allowing a tenant to pay a deposit via a non-profit.  

Never a good idea.  Banks would call this lack of skin the game.  If you were getting a mortgage, typically the borrower has to have some money to put in (downpayment).  We understand there are 0-3% DP programs, but for the purposes of this post, we are not talking about those.  Housing is a major item in someone's life, and is a commitment (you're not just leasing a car, or something).  Typically, it's also a major expense in life.  If a tenant is able to mitigate this expense, good for them.  However, as the property owner, it's ALWAYS prudent for the other party (tenant) to have some of their OWN skin in the game.  Else the tendency to not care and not treat the arrangement with respect, may arise.  A human behavior and statistically-based concept.  We didn't make up the concept.  The loan biz has followed this formula for decades and there is a good reason for it!

#4 Not charging big enough deposits for nicer homes, I have had many recently renovated properties that tenants have destroyed.  a true shame.  We like to say "thats why those people will likely never have anything nice in life"  


 I am pretty sure you could have written this post just as well as me haha

Post: Methods I use to turn Park Owned Homes into Tenant owned Homes

Logan M.Posted
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  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 737
  • Votes 620
Quote from @Jordan Moorhead:

@Dan Carter I wouldn't count them as part of the deal but an added benefit. I only count lot rent when doing my analysis.

 @Dan Carter the answer @Jordan Moorhead is a great answer!

Post: Four ways I have lost money investing in mobile home parks

Logan M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 737
  • Votes 620

I want to focus this post on issues that have cost me money that were avoidable.

#1 Fires, I have lost three homes to fires. Two were caused by humans. I should have insured the homes, sold them, or done something to mitigate this risk.

#2 Selecting bad tenants, there is nothing worse than selecting a tenant that pays you a deposit and months' rent then refuses to pay you again.

#3 Allowing a tenant to pay a deposit via a non-profit.

#4 Not charging big enough deposits for nicer homes, I have had many recently renovated properties that tenants have destroyed.

Post: Utah Life Real Estate Group

Logan M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 737
  • Votes 620
Quote from @Joey Newman:

Hey everyone, I am a new agent in the Salt Lake area and am interested in getting into helping investors find property. Would love to hear everyones thoughts glad to be here. 


 We are always looking for deals. I guess my main question is going to be how you are planning to find good deals?

Post: Basics / Getting started

Logan M.Posted
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  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 737
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Quote from @Gary Kurtz:

@Logan M. Sage advice!  Thank you!  It's hard to hit your goal if you aren't crystal clear on what the goal actually is.


 It is easy to get so deep into the deals/projects you start realizing you don't know how to get out

Post: Utilizing Solar Lights and Cameras in your Mobile Home Community

Logan M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 737
  • Votes 620
Quote from @Rene D.:

What lights are you using? I was looking into Gama based on the Frank Rolfe article.

 This was my last purchase

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C8SXB4T1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b...

Post: Community Internet as an amentity

Logan M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 737
  • Votes 620
Quote from @Dave Rav:

We too have considered providing WiFi.  I do like your idea of the "tech package" with assoc. fees.

The major con that has kept us from implementing has been - management burden.  You touched on this as well 

If any problems, mgmt will be flooded with calls regarding this non-essential amenity.  People will get unhappy rather quickly.
this, plus it's one more thing to "babysit".  We prefer hands-free as much as possible (most utilities and services for us are tenant-responibility).  

These considered, not sure the potential extra profit would be worth the hassle.


 I have wondered though if there are government grants/tax credits for providing internet to low income tenants.