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All Forum Posts by: Aaron T.

Aaron T. has started 43 posts and replied 757 times.

Post: Help!!! need creative solution to fund new construction

Aaron T.
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Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

not many lenders will do true construction loans especially to first time builders   .  You may want to partner with a builder who can get verticals financing

Jay,

I will look into the verticals financing.

In our area flippers are over paying and its dog eat dog, that is why we opted to build from the ground up. less surprises and less competition; buy dirt, build, sell.

Thanks all for all the suggestions we should be thinking about. I welcome all the input as it will help us in future growth to get these and many more done.

Post: Help!!! need creative solution to fund new construction

Aaron T.
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Originally posted by @Karen Margrave:

@Aaron T. I understand you're looking for a quick answer, but before anyone can help you and give you answers for your specific situation, it's necessary to know the details of the entire transaction. When you come onto BP posting for help, and someone tries to help you,  comments like ""We will get these built, I am just looking to hear ways to make it happen, not ways to not make it happen." aren't appreciated. You didn't post the information needed to answer the question you asked, therefore; I've simply tried to get them and to figure out potential answers for you. 

For instance, I'm still confused by your statement "We own the lots, so there is no liens. Our investors hold promissory for a return for carrying the lot for us" So then, the Promissory Note isn't secured by a Deed of Trust and all the lots are Free and Clear? 

The reason I mentioned selling a few of the lots was to raise the funds needed to put in to satisfy a construction lender, because obviously your problem is lack of skin in the game. Though that may not be an ideal solution for you, you asked for ways to put the deal together.

These deals aren't rocket science. It's all about balancing what a builder needs with the requirements a lender wants, working with equity in a deal, the costs to build, and value after completion, together with the weight of your experience. That's the formula. If one area is weak, you shore it up, knowing that it is the lender that drives the train. 

Maybe Florida has different ways of securing property than I'm familiar with, so let's ask @Jay Hinrichs to weigh in.

Karen,

Maybe you read that the wrong way, my comment is not meant to be inflammatory. I am saying we have the lots, so we are going to build. I don't believe selling the lots is an option for us. I believe it will be easier to get one funded and the rest will fall into line, rather than sell all the lots to fund one, then try and find more lots for a good price......I own the dirt, its just a matter of building on them, and that part is not rocket science. If I had the capital, we could build a could start them in just a matter of weeks of one another.

There is no deed of trust, we [our LLC] own the lots free and clear. We worked with friends and family to get the capital for the lots.

We will continue to seek private and HM to get this done.

Post: Help!!! need creative solution to fund new construction

Aaron T.
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Originally posted by @Karen Margrave:

You're going to either need to get the holders of the 1st liens to subordinate to a construction lender, or get a construction lender to cross collateralize their loan with 2nds on all of the property. I cannot imagine a lender giving a loan without any collateral, that's unheard of, unless it's family or ? 

You didn't say how many square feet the houses will be that you're building, but it seems pretty tight once you figure in all the construction costs, interest, commissions, etc. Maybe sell off a couple of lots? 

We own the lots, so there is no liens. Our investors hold promissory for a return for carrying the lot for us.

our elevations are between 1300-1450 sq ft. This fits in line with the neighborhood.

I am not sure why we would sell the lots. if we sell the lots, then we pay back the investors and now we are with no lots and maybe a little cash.

We will get these built, I am just looking to hear ways to make it happen, not ways to not make it happen.  

Post: Inverness, FL

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I have not been to inverness in many years, but its about a hour north of Tampa and where the turnpike starts off I75. Like anything in FL I am sure it has grown since I have been there last.

Post: Help!!! need creative solution to fund new construction

Aaron T.
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Originally posted by @Karen Margrave:

@Aaron T. The truth is, this question should have been posed before you bought the lots, and you may have had an easier deal to put together. You wrote that you personally hold the 5th lot. If you own it free and clear, that needs to be the first build using it as collateral on the construction loan, then move on to the other lots. Why aren't you doing that?

What is the value of the lots as they sit? What is the cost to develop? What is the value (conservative) upon completion? What is the market like? What is your experience? When looking at these situations, look at it as if you were the lender, if you were loaning on the deal, what would you want? To be honest, unless there's a very solid profit margin in each deal, it's going to be very hard to get construction funding. The question is, if you didn't have financing lined up for construction, why did you finance each lot, rather than buying one lot, develop and buy another? You may have been able to tie up all the lots with some type of option. 

Karen,

Its hard to get funding for something you don't have. If we did not have a lot, it would be harder to justify funding; Now we have lots. I am partnered with a builder in Tampa that has many connections and gets leads on lots. Rather than let these go, I wanted to get these under contract and purchased. We have been seeking funding for the construction costs from private money individuals, but because it would be unsecure funds, people are a little more hesitant; We also may not be talking to the right people. I continue to network. 

The lot I purchased was $15k which I could use as collateral, but that still is not the 25% that some of the HMLs are looking for if we are building at $105k. The other lots range from $5k-$12k. We are able to build in the $70-$75sqft range with our sale price being in the 145k-155k.

We could just as easily buy flips, but in Tampa its easier to not follow the crowd and fight for over priced properties and still have to spend the same amount of money we would on a new construction build.

These will get built. I will let you know our progress.

Post: Help!!! need creative solution to fund new construction

Aaron T.
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I need some creative minds to help with new construction funding.

My company is planning to infil SFRs within the Tampa area. We currently own 5 lots in the Tampa area. 4 of the 5 lots are funded through private investors. I personally hold the 5th.

Our first lot is ready for ground breaking in the next week, but we are lacking the funding to move to the next stage. After contacting Hard money lenders, they want 25% in the deal. I don't have the 25% after exhausting my capital on purchasing 3 buy and holds and 1 of these vacant lots.

Two of my rentals have equity, but not enough to pull out (75%LTV, would put me cashed out around 10k for two rentals) equity and make a difference in getting these projects started.

Does anyone have any ideas or leads for how we can move forward. I would like to build a relationship with someone to help get these moving.

Post: Beginner Investor Looking To Purchase Multi-Family With Va Loan

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Robert,

I pretty sure there is no requirement for longevity for a VA loan. It is occupancy they are looking for. If you were to PCS 6 months after purchasing, there is no way to hold you to longevity. You must live in the property to have occupancy though, and that is the biggie they look at. If you PCS, then you can rent all units and receive a new VA at your new location as long as you have eligibility left.

I know in Tampa full eligibility for a 4-unit is 880k, nothing out of pocket. in CA you may be eligible for more due to the cost of living.

If you buy at a discount with VA loan, and fix the property up, you could REFI with the improved equity position and not have to pay PMI or 20% down. Then you could move and use your VA loan again with full eligibility.

Post: REJECTED!!!

Aaron T.
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Tampa is tough right now. it is a sellers market for sure. Keep looking and you will find a deal. double check most of the wholesalers in the area. some have decent deals and others are no deal at all; no meat on the bone for you.

Post: New to Bigger Pockets

Aaron T.
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Welcome to BP. There is a lot of contacts in Jacksonville. set up your keyword alerts and you will have no trouble tracking down people.

Post: To install central AC or not?

Aaron T.
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Central AC all the way. on unit for each and you don't need multiple window units making the place look bad. mini split is good if its a smaller space or one room, but the Central AC will give the long term bang for the buck.