All Forum Posts by: Alan Nelson
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@Patrick Roberts - thanks for the reply. Definitely a lot of conflicting information/ambiguous guidance on this issue.
That was exactly the problem I ran into that led me to pay for attorney guidance. It's very ambiguous. The attorney I spoke with basically said that if you give someone a "business purpose" loan secured by their home with a 12%-18% APR (like most hard money loans) and they default and may lose their home because of it, you're going to have a very hard time justifying and enforcing this in a foreclosure.
To the point, my paid attorney told me something different. Granted, one thing that came out of the conversation was a more robust affidavit for the homeowner/principal of the borrower to complete.
@Patrick Roberts - thanks for the reply. Definitely a lot of conflicting information/ambiguous guidance on this issue.
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Quote from @Kerry Noble Jr:
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Is it his primary residence, or an investment property? Makes a big difference on what's available.
Primary
Heloc from a local bank is where I would start. This will be a consumer finance loan subject to Dodd-Frank, so private lending/ABL is unlikely to pan out.
Patrick - my understanding is that the primary determining factor here would not be primary residence vs. investment property; rather, it would be the purpose of the loan since there is a specific exclusion under DF for business purpose loans. 12 CFR Sec. 1026.3(a). Or, am I misreading something?
Post: Small business software for Lenders

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- Indianapolis, IN
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@Glenn N. - Are most of your loans short-term/interest-only, or are they more complex (e.g., longer-term, amortized, require escrow, commonly modified b/c of prepayments, etc.)? I have found that it is quite simple to self-manage a portfolio of 30-40 short-term/interest-only loans using a combination of QuickBooks and an XL workbook (1 worksheet "tab" for each loan). My CPA takes care of the 1098s.
Some DIY lenders use a program called NoteSmith, but IMO, if the loans are too complex to easily manage with simple XL/QuickBooks, I'd be using a 3P servicer. In the latter case, I would still use QB to enter info provided by the 3P servicer and to maintain my general ledger for the lending business.
Post: Why jr. Liens can be problematic when in 1st position

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- Indianapolis, IN
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Quote from @Jamie Bateman:
@Chris Seveney the reason I don't pay too much attention to junior liens when buying a first is that the borrower could always add a junior lien after I buy the 1st. I can't control that.
You can include in the definition of default the creation of an additional lien (either voluntarily or involuntarily).
@Tom Gimer - You are correct, and many loan docs provide that an additional encumbrance constitutes an event of default. However, such a provision doesn't actually prevent that additional/junior lien from attaching to the property, leaving the 1st lien lender stuck with the issues @Chris Seveney mentioned. The one good thing about such a provision is that it allows the senior lender to start foreclosure (or notice of default/cure period) immediately.
Post: Private Money Lending Question

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- Indianapolis, IN
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Agree with @Kerry Noble Jr. I've been in this situation as well and understand the want to help. At the end of the day, the purpose/use of the proceeds is for the borrower's personal home (i.e., personal, family, or household purposes), which puts this loan squarely in the consumer loan category.
Post: Advice - Line of Credit on a STR

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- Indianapolis, IN
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@Dave Skow and @Caroline Gerardo, why don't HELOC lender like to be in 1st position? (Do they really not get an insured closing with their own lender's title policy?)
Post: Getting Equity Out Of Investment Property

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- Indianapolis, IN
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Thanks @Doug Smith
Post: Getting Equity Out Of Investment Property

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@Doug Smith, that is good to know. In terms of underwriting criteria, what kind of cumulative LTV are you seeing for 2nd position?
Post: Do not use this lender!

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- Indianapolis, IN
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@Eamon Conheady - was the other lender a company or a private individual? If a company, it would be great to know of a reputable non-recourse lender.