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Post: A question about cash out refi on first STR

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Quote from @Ben Tharpe:
Hi, all. This is my first post. Thanks so much for any responses. Been lurking for a while but couldn't find any guidance for this question. I just bought my first STR in Louisiana about a month ago and actively renting it out. Due to being self employed, my local mortgage lender required me to put $90,000 (40%) down on a $221,000 house since it was an investment property. (I already have a primary residence that I own) Sometime in the next year or so, I would like to do a cash out refi to use some equity to put towards my second rental property. Will a dscr loan work as a cash out refi? Meaning that they wouldn't need my tax returns and allow me to refinance with them and pull all of the equity out minus the typical 20% down. Since conventional loans require me to put so much down on investment, I'm thinking everything should be dscr for now?
Hi Ben,
Congrats on getting your first STR! Yes, you would be able to use a DSCR loan for a cash-out refinance. Typically LTV is capped at 75% for that kind of scenario, but considering you already have quite a bit of equity in the property, I would imagine it would be fine. DSCR lenders won't have to look at any of your personal income verification documents or look at DTI. Considering you're planning on doing the cash-out refi in a year or so, and the property is a STR, the lender will more than likely go off of the 12 month average rental income for qualification. Out of curiosity, did you have to put down 40% to keep in line with DTI?
Post: Rate lock "Total Lender Costs"

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Quote from @Chuong Do:
I just did a rate lock yesterday for 180 days, and there are NO upfront fees. There are "Total Lender Costs", which the loan officer said would be rolled up into the loan when I get it.
Am I obligated to pay that "Total Lender Costs" if I choose not to go through with the loan.
Hi Chuong,
No, you're not obligated to pay the "Total Lender Costs" amount if you choose not to go through with the loan. Appraisal fee should be the only thing you're being charged for before the loan closes. Everything else gets paid at closing.
Post: Best way to use the equity on my houses

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Quote from @Jose Ortega:
Thanks for that advice guys! I would also like to know how to go about taking money out against the equity in my properties. What would be the best loan to look for?
There are some different avenues you can explore with regards to taking out equity. Pretty much either trying to find a HELOC lender who is willing to lend on a investment property or simply doing a cash-out refinance transaction. In terms of actual loan programs to look out for, it kind of depends on your comfort level and style. Do you prefer full doc conventional financing where you'd get the best rate and terms but qualification standards are more stringent? Or alternative financing where the rate is higher but qualification standards are less stringent? There are many pros and cons to each different strategy and a lot of things to consider in-between. Some program parameters could be advantageous while others, not so much. An example of alternative financing is DSCR which I'm SURE you've seen tossed around through the forums quite a bit & there's a good reason why. It's a very popular and advantageous program that investors are utilizing while it's still available. Hope this helps, feel free to reach out if you have any other questions!
Post: Seeking Creative Financing in Cleveland Area

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Quote from @Kevin L Owens:
I’m learning about and seeking creative financing in the Cleveland area to purchase a residential investment property. Any guidance would be appreciated!
Thank you!
Kevin
Hi Kevin,
There are many creative financing options that investors like yourself can utilize. Because there are so many, you have to narrow down your parameters to see which one's make the most sense for you. What type of property are you seeking (SFR, 2-4 unit, etc)? What down payment are you expecting? Is this a long term rental, short term rental, or BRRRR? Full, alt, or no doc loan? These details matter in pointing you in the right direction. Best of luck! :)
Post: Loan options for investment property in MS

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Quote from @Shanna Pettie:
Quote from @Brandon Beardt:
Quote from @Shanna Pettie:
Hi everyone,
I would like to purchase some rental property in central MS and/or close to popular universities like Mississippi State or Ole Miss. I'm currently saving for a down payment. I'm interested in single family and multifamily (2-4 units); non-owner occupied. Any recommendations for loan financing with a low down payment? Which banks should be on my check list?
Hi Shanna,
I typically see down payments for investment properties in the 20-25% range. You may be able to get away with 15% down on an investment SFR with conventional financing if you qualify and DTI is aligned. There also may be local credit unions/banks in the local area that you are searching in that may offer products with lower down payments for both SFRs and 2-4 units, but I wouldn't know. It may be worthwhile to check them out if your goal is to maximize your leverage and put as little down as possible. Are you strictly looking for conventional financing options? Or are you open to alternative financing to help expand your portfolio? Apart from conventional financing, you should know that there are many alternative financing options that a lot of brokers/lenders have to offer. These usually don't come with a super low down payment option, but come with other advantages that may be in your best interest. Many of them are actually discussed here in the forums. It'd be good to be knowledgeable of the different financing options you have available at your disposal. Best of luck to you! :)
Thank you so much for your response. I will most definitely look into alternative financing. My goal is to purchase my first multifamily by the end of the year!
That's a fantastic goal to have. & of course! Always happy to help.
Post: Best way to use the equity on my houses

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Quote from @Jose Ortega:
I've been juggling the idea of using some of the equity in my homes to buy a couple more properties but don't really know which route to take. Would it make since to buy something I can BRRR, or buy something that's more turnkey in today's market?
Any advice?
Thanks!
Hi Jose,
I would say that there's no right or wrong answer as to whether you should look for BRRRR or turnkey opportunities. More likely than not, there are deals out there that would make sense to do BOTH strategies. It's just finding those deals and making sure the numbers work for you and your comfort level. I wouldn't recommend only focusing on one or the other. You make money when you BUY and investors are still finding opportunities. If any opportunities come your way, analyze them - and if the numbers don't work, on to the next one! Today's market is making it harder to find deals but they are out there. Best of luck!
Post: Loan options for investment property in MS

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- La Crescenta, CA
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Quote from @Shanna Pettie:
Hi everyone,
I would like to purchase some rental property in central MS and/or close to popular universities like Mississippi State or Ole Miss. I'm currently saving for a down payment. I'm interested in single family and multifamily (2-4 units); non-owner occupied. Any recommendations for loan financing with a low down payment? Which banks should be on my check list?
Hi Shanna,
I typically see down payments for investment properties in the 20-25% range. You may be able to get away with 15% down on an investment SFR with conventional financing if you qualify and DTI is aligned. There also may be local credit unions/banks in the local area that you are searching in that may offer products with lower down payments for both SFRs and 2-4 units, but I wouldn't know. It may be worthwhile to check them out if your goal is to maximize your leverage and put as little down as possible. Are you strictly looking for conventional financing options? Or are you open to alternative financing to help expand your portfolio? Apart from conventional financing, you should know that there are many alternative financing options that a lot of brokers/lenders have to offer. These usually don't come with a super low down payment option, but come with other advantages that may be in your best interest. Many of them are actually discussed here in the forums. It'd be good to be knowledgeable of the different financing options you have available at your disposal. Best of luck to you! :)
Post: 50/50 ownership property but responsible for ALL debt to Lenders.

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Quote from @Jason Fontes:
Hey biggerpockets forum,
I am currently looking to get into my second multi family home. My first property is a multi family joint owned between me and my business partner, we have an equal stake in the property. Naturally we split the income on our Tax Returns, but have never had to pay a mortgage payment out of pocket, our tenants cover the entirety of the mortgage payment.
In trying to get my second multi family I am working with a lender that is currently running my income and debt numbers. For their calculations the lenders are making me responsible for the ENTIRE debt sum of the first property (not half). Which I totally understand, considering their reasoning is if something where to happen to my business partner I would then be responsible for the whole mortgage payment. However, they are only allowing HALF of the income (mine) to be valid income. When in their "worst case" scenario of the other business partner not being a factor, I then would inherit ALL of the income and it wouldn't be an issue.
I'm curious is this is a standard of ALL lenders? Or is this lender just not really making sense? Are there ways to work around this? To me it would seem that the debt from the first property should almost be null and void considering it doesn't effect my current income in any fashion.
Hi Jason,
Congrats on identifying your second multi fam! Unfortunately, this is very common when trying to go the conventional financing route. Conventional lenders will ALWAYS go with the worst of the worst case scenarios. Out of curiosity - how does your DTI look in that current scenario? Are you still able to qualify given your DTI? If not, there are other brokers/lenders that work with alternative financing programs that may be able to help you out. Programs that wouldn't look at your DTI or anything in those regards. Qualification would simply be based on the asset's income itself. If you're still able to qualify with DTI and prefer the conventional financing route, then you should go for it. Just know there are always other options available.
Post: Origination fee... real or fake?

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Quote from @David Simpson:
Is it common, when dealing with private money lenders, to have an "Origination fee"? How do you know that it isn't a scam? Does anyone recommend a private money lender for a rookie to real estate investing? I currently have 2 deals on the table, with no funding.
Hi David,
Yes, it's almost industry standard for private money lenders to have some sort of origination fee. That being said, it should ALWAYS be paid at closing once the loan actually closes. There are MANY brokers/lenders in the forums that can work with beginner RE investors, I would say most if not all. Usually they'll just require that you've had some sort of home ownership in the past, such as a primary residence, but that's not always the case. You can do some research on different lenders in the Network tab above or check out the various forums where they are actively posting. I'd say do some research and understand exactly what you're getting yourself into when working with a specific broker/lender. Don't go into the process not knowing what to expect. Also, talk to a bunch of them, you'll learn a lot along the way which'll help you grow as an investor. Best of luck to you!
Post: Can I cah out refinance with no reserves?

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Quote from @Julie Mogyorosi:
If I have a 4 unit worth $400k, I still owe $115k on the mortgage… can I do a cash out refinance even with no reserves in the bank? 698 credit score. I would use money from the cash out to make a reserve + buy my partner out. Any help would be amazing, thank you!!
Hi Julie,
With full doc conventional financing, cash-out proceeds cannot be used as proof of reserves. Usually they require you to show you have 6 months of PITI payments separate from the transaction. Therefore, you must already have these funds available to show. With most alternative financing programs (alt/no doc), however, you ARE able to use the cash out funds as proof of reserves while also being able to buy your partner out. If you're very tight on cash - it may be worthwhile to explore this option. Also, to reiterate, you won't have to actually GIVE the lender the reserves for them to keep on their end - they just want to see that you have it available.