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All Forum Posts by: Brett Synicky

Brett Synicky has started 25 posts and replied 738 times.

Post: Physician and Solo 401 as Real Estate Agent

Brett Synicky
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  • Solo 401k and SDIRA Consultant
  • Orange, CA
  • Posts 764
  • Votes 386
Quote from @James Meyer:

Hi,

I am a physician employed at a university hospital with W2 income. I have 403 and 457 retirement accounts through my employer.

I plan to get my real estate broker license this year and I wonder if I am eligible for solo 401 as a real estate agent. 

I would appreciate your input. Thanks.

Jim


 


 Hello Jim, you need legitimate self employment activity and no w2 employees (other than spouse) working more than 500 hours annually.  The business that sponsors the Solo 401k would need to be in business and earn money.  IRS expects people to have up and down years in business but the intent would need be to make money.  Also as others have stated you would not be able to take advantage of the employee and employer contributions if the business doesn't make money.  You could however roll over your 403 and 457 into the Solo and start make investments.  

If you don't intend to operate an actual real estate sales business even if super part time then you're better off looking at a Self Directed IRA. The downside is if you invest in real estate the income from the financed portion of the real estate will be subject to UBIT TAX.

Talk to a qualified tax professional before doing anything of course.  

Post: SDIRA and BRRR and HML/PML

Brett Synicky
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  • Solo 401k and SDIRA Consultant
  • Orange, CA
  • Posts 764
  • Votes 386

@T. Philip Washington There are a few things an SDIRA cannot invest in.  Collectibles (think baseball cards and stamps), life insurance policies, any investment with a prohibited party which is you, your spouse, your children and their spouses and your parents.  Think of a vertical line.  Uncle and brother or sister is fine. It's not really a mixed bag of apples, you're a prohibited party so no "partnering" with your SDIRA so you can only do white collar work, no blue collar hammer swinging.  

The only real exception is investment in a business in which Plan Participant or other disqualified person already has less than 50% ownership.

Hope that helps.  But yes - get advise from a qualified tax professional.   

    Post: LLC whose only member is my SDIRA buying a property Subject-to - triggering UBIT

    Brett Synicky
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    • Solo 401k and SDIRA Consultant
    • Orange, CA
    • Posts 764
    • Votes 386
    Quote from @Bob Willis:
    Quote from @Jeff Nash:

    I think the risk of you having a prohibited transaction (extension of credit and not using a nonrecourse loan) is the real issue and not necessarily UBIT.  If this is the case, it would be considered a deemed distribution of your account which could result in adverse tax consequences. 


    Hey Jeff - are you saying the LLC acquiring a property subject-to an existing loan is a prohibited transaction?

    @Bob Willis I took your original post as the LLC being the LLC that was created specifically and only for the SDIRA. It must have a trust (newer and less common) or a special purpose, single member LLC to work. Isn't that what you meant?

    Post: LLC whose only member is my SDIRA buying a property Subject-to - triggering UBIT

    Brett Synicky
    Posted
    • Solo 401k and SDIRA Consultant
    • Orange, CA
    • Posts 764
    • Votes 386
    Quote from @Bob Willis:
    Quote from @Brett Synicky:
    Quote from @Bob Willis:
    Quote from @Brett Synicky:

    Yes the leveraged portion of the real estate will trigger UDFI which will cause UBIT.  UBIT scales up to 37% so it can be a hefty tax depending on the numbers.  

    Easy math is this:  $100k home.  50% down.  50% financed.  So 50% of the income generated would get hit with UBIT.  So if you made 10k then $5k of it would get taxed.  After expenses are deducted.  


    FYI - if you qualify for a Solo 401k (self employed and no employees over 500 hours annually) then you can avoid this tax on leveraged real estate.


     What does it take to qualify for a Solo 401k? I am still a full time W2 cog.

    You can have a w2 job.  You just have to have legitimate self employment activity.  Can’t be a hobby.  No w2 employees over 500 hours other than a spouse. That’s it.  

     Do you report any income on a schedule C?

     Hey @Brett Synicky - I do not have any income reported on schedule C, but that'e easy enough to remediate. Is there a threshold you want to make sure you reach relative to the minimum reported on the schedule C. And is it really as simple as that?

    @Bob Willis

    Pretty much. You can add money to the Solo a few different ways. Rollover from a qualified retirement account and contributions. There's 2 types of contributions. Employee and employer. Employee 23k and you can put 100% of what you pay yourself up to that amount. The profit sharing can be contributed up to a max of 20% (sole prop/single member LLC) or 25% (Scorp) of what you pay yourself for the year. For 2024 these totals cannot exceed $69k (double that if your spouse is an employee of the sponsoring company). It's an amazing retirement vehicle for self employed.

    Post: Using 401k withdrawal like private money

    Brett Synicky
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    • Solo 401k and SDIRA Consultant
    • Orange, CA
    • Posts 764
    • Votes 386

    @Shannon Dennis take dad out of the equation.  You can open an SDIRA and invest in real estate and the only tax you would have is the UBIT generated on the UDFI generated by the income on financed portion of the real estate.  There's no UBIT tax on financed real estate in a SOLO 401k. 

    Post: Using 401k withdrawal like private money

    Brett Synicky
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    • Solo 401k and SDIRA Consultant
    • Orange, CA
    • Posts 764
    • Votes 386

    @Shannon Dennis The only IRA option for investing in alternative assets is either a sep IRA or Self Directed IRA and both have IRS rules regarding probited parties and transactions. Prohibited parties are spouse, child and their spouse, and parents. Think of a vertical line. Can't go up or down. Uncle or brother is ok, cousin or friend is fine. In your case it's a non-starter with father and daughter.

    Post: Family funding w/ private money

    Brett Synicky
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    • Solo 401k and SDIRA Consultant
    • Orange, CA
    • Posts 764
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    Quote from @Rick Pozos:

    Self directed IRAs are great. BUT Dad can NOT lend you money from his self directed IRA. There are prohibited people that the IRA can not do business with. Parents and kids can not borrow from, buy from or sell to parents and vice versa.

    You can get an aunt or uncle, cousin, friend from work, Dads friend from work. Just not lineal: parents, kids, grand parents, grand kids or spouses of the above.

     If dad qualifies for a Solo401k (legitimate self employment activity and no w2 employees other than spouse working more than 500 hours annually) he can take a participant loan up to 50k or 50% whichever is less and use that for any purpose including loaning money to a prohibited party.   BUT - there's the current 50k loan outstanding.  @Shannon Carter I commented on your other post also - is the current 401k with a current employer?  

    Post: 401k withdrawal to invest

    Brett Synicky
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    • Solo 401k and SDIRA Consultant
    • Orange, CA
    • Posts 764
    • Votes 386
    Quote from @Shannon Carter:

    Hello Bp,

    I would like some feedback on this creative financing I am trying to do. 

    I have done 2 successful flips and also have one 1 buy and hold.

    Now that I have a little skin in the game I’d like to ask my dad who is 62, with a 6 figure 401k to allow me to use $50,000 to invest in more real estate. I’d like to pay him as if he’s my private money lender after each deal. 

    He’s funded my deals by taking out a loan from his 401k and I would make the biweekly loan payments , and pay him a fee once I sold my flips and refinanced my last property. That way we both made profit. 

    But we can’t do another 401k loan for another 6 months . 

    My question is , what steps would I need to take if he does the 50k withdrawal instead of the loan? Since he's 62 I know we can withdraw with no penalty, but is there a way to avoid taxes ? Like transferring the funds to a SDIRA or Roth IRA ?

    Thanks for the feedback 

     Hi @Shannon Carter First off, both of you should probably talk to a qualified tax professional.   

    Is the 401k your dad borrowed 50k from with a current employer?  If so, it's not likely they'll let him roll the funds into a solo 401k or SDIRA pre tax or post tax. Of course converting the funds into a Roth is a taxable event, so whether he takes a RMD or converts to Roth it's taxable. At this point I think you need to wait 6 months before asking him for money from his retirement account if the goal is to pay as little tax as possible.  Again, best to check with a CPA.  

    Post: IRA, Self directed IRA, distribution. Oops

    Brett Synicky
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    • Solo 401k and SDIRA Consultant
    • Orange, CA
    • Posts 764
    • Votes 386

    @Denise Holder

    So sorry you're going through this, it's a tough lesson for sure. As you probably know by now you cannot co-mingle personal funds/accounts with retirement accounts. Unfortunately with the SDIRA it's likely now invalid since there's no way to undo what was done. Get in touch with your CPA asap about this to see how you can mitigate the damages. Using the IRA to invest in prohibited assets or transactions may result in the plan losing its tax-deferred status and being subject to various taxes and penalties.@Account Closed did a good job explaining.  

    Post: Recommendations for Self Directed IRA Companies

    Brett Synicky
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    • Solo 401k and SDIRA Consultant
    • Orange, CA
    • Posts 764
    • Votes 386
    Quote from @Account Closed:

    I use fidelity, these guys are the gold standard IMO 

     @Marlene Azada What do you want to invest in?   If you go with a large brokerage like Fidelity or Vanguard they may call it "self directed" but the reality is they can only offer you what they offer anybody, stocks, bonds and mutual funds.  You'll also have custodial fees with them.  You can open and SDIRA or Solo 401k (if you qualify) with checkbook control cutting out the middle man and invest in alternative assets like Real estate, crypto, etc...only restriction is collectables.