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All Forum Posts by: Cameron Lam

Cameron Lam has started 4 posts and replied 106 times.

Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:

@Cameron Lam first of all congratulations on your pace of acquisition and maximizing rents on the units. I do have a couple questions:

1. I had looked at Venmo but my understanding is using it to collect rents per their terms it requires a business account and there are charges. I have also heard tenants can make partial payments or make payments during eviction, which can be a problem. Have you considered either concern?

2. How many total tenants do you have and how many hours per month do you think you spend dealing with tenants? I have not gone the rent-by-room route, so I am trying to understand how much extra work it would be for the extra rents.

3. When you built new did you do anything special in the construction to harden the property? Like upgrades to more durable materials so they hold up better under use? Just curious of any examples.

Less of a question and more of a comment. In my experience when you have more people in a property, it accelerates wear on everything in the property. Just expect repairs and CAPEX to run higher when you have that many people in a property. Sadly even new properties can have issues in the first 5-10 years. The quality of fixture, appliances, HVAC, pluming, etc has decreased.

Joe great comments.

1) No idea on Venmo.  They are linked to my business accounts so not sure if that is following their guidelines.  Will need to look into it.  So far haven't had any problems.

2) 34 tenants. Total time each week is 0-5 hours for everything.  That includes showing the properties to new tenants, tenant screening, sending rent and utility requests etc.   What's cut down on time even further is I will send potential tenants to the house and if the current roommates like that person and recommend them it helps with the screening process.  I also have contractors for any problems that happen.  Tenants tell me...I forward to contractors...they take a before and after pic and then charge my account.

3)  Didn't do anything special with construction.  Did add extra insulation in between walls for better sound barrier.  I think this is a fair assumption.  I do estimate around 7% for capex of gross income(I will break it out line item by line item for older properties).  My 7% is more like someone else's 10-12% as my gross income is generally higher and includes utilities.

Originally posted by @Tom Phelan:

Congratulations.

Someday you will be the perfect candidate to 1031 Exchange from multiple properties into a single, much higher end, rental property. Perhaps an incredible apartment house and forever eliminate paying taxes on long tern capital gains and taxes or recaptured depreciation.

You are young enough that once you have acquired your 8-unit apartment house, 5 - 10 years later you can again 1031 Exchange into a 12-unit and 5 - 10 years later, 1031 Exchange into a 16-unit. 

Now you have serious cash flow, property management in place and you can sit on a sandy beach anywhere in the world.

Agreed, having a dozen room turnstile AirBNB may generate more short term rental income but the turnover is bound to demand more time while creating more wear and tear.

Good luck.

Tom thanks for the inspiring response.  Down the road when you do a portfolio 1031 exchange for a larger complex as you described...do you usually sell the current properties to one investor or piece them off? I'm guessing it's easier to get different buyers for different properties but wondering if you have to get the timing of the sale with multiple buyers right.  What's your experience been with this?

Originally posted by @Dempsey Herring:

i am looking at buying a two bed room one bath for 80,000 to rent out for 1100 a month do your think that a good investment i will be making 700 on cash flow after cost reply back please 

Dempsey this sounds like a great deal from the numbers you just posted but I think you'd have to do a detailed capex analysis on this and see what you'd be spending every month.  For instance...if the AC cost 4000 to replace and has 2 years useful life left...4000/2/12 = thats $166/mo in capex costs for the next two years.  I would itemize each big item.  Brandon turner had a post about his $40K hell house that had great cash on cash but he did not do a great job of estimating capex.  That would be my only two cents.

Originally posted by @Jon Huynh:

What's your turn around time on financing your loans with that local credit union? How are you able to keep borrowing money for each property when your DTI keeps lowering as you buy another house?

Jon, the turnaround time from when we put an offer in to close can vary from 30 to 40 days. I can keep borrowing as 3 of the homes I purchased were primary homes which didn't count toward the 5 investment total that the credit union has a limit on. The other loans are a mix of my brother and me on the loan and title and then were quit claimed deeded to an LLC. Without boring you with the specifics...I've used up 3 loans with the credit union and have 2 left(5 max).

My DTI stays low because I am able to use signed lease agreements to qualify as income. The credit union takes 75% of the gross rents and adds it to the income.

Originally posted by @Joshua Nason:

What do closing costs look like in AZ? We bought our first two SFH's last year with conventional loans and have had a great experience so far. However, between the two properties here in TN our closing costs were around 10K. We're keeping all rental income in one account until we build our "moat" of 15K. We're ready to repeat, but struggle imagining ways to grow as quickly as you have while avoiding closing costs. What are your thoughts on that? HELOC loan can only go so far – 1-2 houses here – before its maxed and I'll have to factor that into a payment structure also.

Closing costs are high.  Usually around 8-10K per property I purchase but that usually includes 2.25% in origination points due to my lender allowing 10% down on the properties(less down = higher origination).  I could go to 1.5% origination at 15% down but it's worth it to me to keep the extra cash.  I also recommend finding a realtor who will apply a credit to you for working with them.  My realtor gives me a third towards closing costs of his commission as I've done probably the most volume in 1 year compared to any of his other clients.  Find someone newer as most realtors laugh at this proposition.  Honestly, if I was a realtor I would offer half my commissions to everyone just to build up my client base in the beginning...

Originally posted by @Farris Haj:

this is truly an very inspirational story. thank you for sharing it.
I love hearing these stories, because as a Californian, I couldn't possibly fathom doing this in southern CA. prices are so astronomical, basically on the elite can invest in this state. I ended up investing in Nevada so I could take advantage of lower prices and lower down payments. that said, I wander if I can apply your strategy to this nice beautiful community called Summerlin, north of Las Vegas. what are your thoughts?
thanks /// Farris H.

I'm from southern california as well.  Made the switch to AZ partly because of the astronomical prices in CA.  It's a different game there...all appreciation vs cash flow but a game that you need a cash offer or 50% down to even play.  My brother lived in Summerlin for a few years and I love that area.  I don't know the market well but I've seen prices that look comparable to my local AZ market. 

Originally posted by @Drake Johnson:

Have you looked into using Cozy.co versus Venmo?

Someone had mentioned it.  Have you had experiences with it?  Good, bad? I like Venmo because all of my tenants already have it.

Originally posted by @Rebecca Graziano:

Just curious- does your spouse have W2 income? From where I’m standing, it’s hard for my hubby and I to keep our AGI low enough to take full benefits of owning passive RE. We ended up paying a lot more in taxes last year. 

How are you handling that?

 Hi Rebecca!

My wife works part time at a daycare so while she does have a w2 from 2019 it may be somewhere around $20K gross.  We got married at the end of 2018 and at that time I only had 2 properties so this will be my first year of doing taxes with all these units.  What's your experience been with this?  I know there are benefits to having your AGI low enough so that you can apply 25% or so in passive losses to your taxable income...not sure what the thresholds are for that though.  Need to have an indepth discussion with my CPA.

Also, I know that many people like to shield their taxable income but I know this is going to be balance between keeping my DTI high enough so that I can continue to accumulate properties and not having it be ridiculously high where I'm paying extra in taxes...

Originally posted by @Tim Kaminski:

@Cameron Lam  Congrats.  I'm very interested in the room rental strategy myself so have a few questions when you get a chance.

    Do you ever have any issues with the tenants not liking each other and them trying to get you to play referee?

    Do you have any criteria on # of beds or baths in a home or just looking for cheapest entry point? Like always shooting for 2 bathrooms if 3+ bedrooms.

    Do you do a month to month lease on these room rentals, 6 month, or 1 year?  If you are doing a 2 month lease break clause I assume its not month to month but curious.  I would think most room renters would not want 1 year lease. 

    I know you mentioned you had a home cleaned regularly when you had a good deal on a cleaner.  Do you usually have cleaners come in and clean the common areas regularly?   I would think most tenants wouldnt bother cleaning anything that isn't their bedroom.

    How do you deal with things breaking in the home?  Say a hole appears in your drywall and you have to fix and no one is claiming responsibility.  Or plumbing issue etc.  Do you just cover as you are making good money and can't reliably bill back to specific tenant or just split cost amongst everyone?

    Do you give everyone key locked bedroom doors?

    Do you buy any special appliances or do anything to your homes to accommodate for 2-5 separate ppl living in a house.  I imagine ppl would want their own mini fridge in their room for their personal items so things like upgrade electricity or put in larger washer/dryers?

    Where do you advertise most of your vacancies? 

    If home has garage or covered parking, do you charge more for those amenities or just first come first serve?

    Sorry for all the questions but looking to get into my 2nd rental very soon and rent by room has fascinated me but has left me with a lot of questions.

       Awesome question

      1.  Have only had to play referee once.  Moved tenant to another place, found a great replacement and that was solved.

      2.  I look for places with more bedrooms normally.  Usually 4-6 bedrooms+ and 2-4 bathrooms.  3 people per bathroom max is my rule.

      3.  Sending the cleaner in helps maintain the whole house.  I'm having a tile and grout cleaner come in to do deep detox on one of my properties and my tenants are always appreciative.

      4.  My leases have a damage clause in there.  Any damage caused by tenant or associates is taken out of their deposit or billed to them for repair.  With 4-6 people in a home most people are aware of who did the damage.  Worst damage I had is a whole in the drywall from a tenant backing up into the garage too far.

      5.  Yes I buy extra appliances namely fridges.  Max people per fridge is 4.  If I have more I add more.  I also get washer dryers with large capacity.  

      6.  Yes everyone has keys to their bedrooms

      7.  Advertise vacancies on zillow but mainly facebook groups for colleges in the local area.

      8.  I charge 20-25 per garage spot.  Longest tenured roommate gets first dibs.  Then I go down the list.

      Originally posted by @Pete Abilla:

      Good job man. Awesome journey and, at such a young age, you've got a really bright future ahead of you.

      Pete thanks for the kind words! Wish I could invest out in silicone slopes near you but the competition and price are so high!