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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 6 posts and replied 21 times.

@John Underwood, @Nathan Gesner, @Ray Hage - thank you for your input. I have an additional question about the lease if I may. Lease will be signed September 6 for move in date September 15 and tenant will pay first month rent and SD on September 14. Should a holding deposit be collected until rent and SD is received?

@Jim K. - Appreciate your input very much and you are right, the loss of trust is a major issue. As I had posted yesterday the lease runs out end July and does not ask for any notice from owner. Since I had offered to renew before all this unfolded, is there any issue with voiding the offer and letting them know? It is still about 65 days out. Could anyone conversant with Ohio law suggest the right way to do this? Thank you.

Quote from @Tim J.:
I doubt the tenant thinks they violated the lease.  Most tenants in my experience don't read leases that carefully.  

If she's a good tenant otherwise, I don't see why its necessary to get panties in a bunch about it.  

Add him to the lease and be done with it.  

Or, if it annoys you that much, don't renew.

For me, this is not a reason to get adversarial or end a lease.

Yesterday I suggested we go through the lease together in case they had not read or understood it in full. They claimed full understanding of the lease but said I have no compassion - in words that weren't nearly as respectful - for wanting to enforce lease regulations when all they were doing was helping the son. Honestly, if they had been open about it and discussed things with me in advance I would likely have tried to be helpful. Now it appears to be a total disregard for the lease.

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@Colleen F. thanks for your response. Unfortunately after following through on this a little more, they were fully aware of what they were doing but were downright dishonest about not letting me know. I happened upon the situation quite by chance when an online search of my property led me to a website that listed the son as a tenant. That was a huge surprise. I did send them a polite message to try and remedy the situation with two options - either the son vacates or gets himself fully approved as a co-tenant. They were very unhappy, indicated I was heartless to suggest remedies that would likely displace the son and leave him with no place to stay, never mind their own disregard for the lease agreement they signed. 


 Based on that, I would not renew their lease.  Why assume that you screening him will result in him not being approved rather than him being approved.


 Yes I completely agree. 
My lease requires lessee to provide 60 days notice if they are not wishing to renew.  Lessor is not required to provide any notice if renewal is not being offered. Several days ago I had sent them an offer to renew at the end of their current term and they responded that they did wish to renew. Today I had sent them the options for guest to vacate or be screened and added to the lease. Can my offers to renew be revoked and do I need to do anything about this or just let the lease run out?

Quote from @Colleen F.:

@Account Closed are they anticipating he won't pass the background check?  I can't see why they wouldn't just add him otherwise.   Most kids that age won't have a great credit score due to length of credit but that generally wouldn't be a problem for me since they are paying but the comment makes me think there is something else they are concerned about.

I'm not entirely sure what their reasoning is with this.

@Colleen F. thanks for your response. Unfortunately after following through on this a little more, they were fully aware of what they were doing but were downright dishonest about not letting me know. I happened upon the situation quite by chance when an online search of my property led me to a website that listed the son as a tenant. That was a huge surprise. I did send them a polite message to try and remedy the situation with two options - either the son vacates or gets himself fully approved as a co-tenant. They were very unhappy, indicated I was heartless to suggest remedies that would likely displace the son and leave him with no place to stay, never mind their own disregard for the lease agreement they signed. 

@Richard Elvin - thanks for your response. You raise some good points about their reasons for violating the lease terms. If it was a mistake or a lack of understanding, I'll do my best to educate them further. Thanks again

My tenant's 12 month lease ends July 31 and I was informed they wish to renew. However I just learned the tenant moved in their 21 year old son without my knowledge and the son has been living there the past two or three months. The lease is specific that guests are not permitted to  stay more than seven consecutive days for any reason. The tenant has otherwise been good and pays rent regularly and on time so my aim is to try and find a positive outcome to this breach of rules by asking the son put in an application, be screened and added to the lease if he is planning to stay on for a while. I read a few responses to other similar posts that suggest ignoring these types of situations and letting them slide, but I'd like to keep this on the up and up and try to resolve it in an amicable manner. Given that the lease will be coming up for renewal in a few  weeks time, should my aim be to wait a while and add the son to the new lease or add him immediately to the current lease with an addendum? And should the parent and the son both be listed as "jointly and severally liable" even if the screening reveals the son is not in a position to assume this responsibility independently? Thank you.

Thank you @Nathan G and @Theresa Harris for valuable advice. Still learning and the procedures you mentioned make perfect sense to me now.