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All Forum Posts by: Tim Schroeder

Tim Schroeder has started 15 posts and replied 314 times.

Post: 3 bedroom house - the price is right but rooms are small

Tim SchroederPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Castle Rock, CO
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 387

When I saw the title I was going to say "it doesn't matter, a bed is a bed and they won't know how small the room is until they are there". Then I saw "single bed". In my experience, heads in beds has a direct impact on revenue. So I personally would never buy a rental that could not sleep 2 people in each room. Since most properties can accept a 2-person bed, why limit your potential? I would pass.

Post: Smokey Mountains current situation on the ground

Tim SchroederPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Castle Rock, CO
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 387
Originally posted by @Kyle H.:

@Ryan Proffit Don't discount looking on the other side of the Smoky's in the Bryson City/Cherokee area, while not as much of a hotbed for investor activity as the Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge area we have returns very similar to those @Julie McCoy described in her post.  While I believe the Tennessee side rightly sees a higher volume of investor activity due to a variety of factors there is still money to be had over on this side of the mountain.  I would echo the comments of @Collin Hays and @Luke Carl, in regards to purchase price vs. rent.  I have 3 units under 450 sq/ft that all do over $32k-45k/yr and we built all of them for less than 90k (full disclosure my business partner and I have a building business so this is our cost).  

I am interested in looking outside Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg too. As prices continue to skyrocket buyers will look elsewhere. So, the big question is, "Where is the next Pigeon Forge going to be", in terms of STR success AND potential for price appreciation? When you mentioned Bryon City/Cherokee I went and did some poking around. On Realter.com there are ZERO 4BR+ for sale in Cherokee, and only 14 in Bryson City, most of those were 700k-1.5m. I found that surprising, and I'm not sure what to make of it.

Post: Am I paying too much for cleaning?

Tim SchroederPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Castle Rock, CO
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 387

I pay $230 for my 6BR's. I feel it's a bit high but they are very good and do tons of maintenance jobs at low cost. Like stopping in at Walmart to buy kitchen towels, etc. I hate that trivial stuff.

I used to have a 4BR and I paid $130 for cleanings

Post: What is a good STR ROI in your opinion?

Tim SchroederPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Castle Rock, CO
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 387
Originally posted by @Collin Hays:

All of mine are around 20-22% when factoring in tax depreciation, annual price appreciation, and net rents.

That said, a 12% return from an STR is far superior to the same return from a mutual fund, because you are using your own money to buy the mutual fund, and someone else's money to buy your STR; the guests pay for the investment.

I always prefer to let perfect strangers fund my living rather myself.  

Didn't you have to buy the property (cash or down pmt plus costs) in the first place out of pocket? That's equivalent to the money invested in the mutual fund. Guests aren't paying for the investment, they're generating the income which would be equivalent to the interest and dividends on the mutual fund. I know we're mixing apples and oranges here, AND getting off topic, sorry...

Post: What is a good STR ROI in your opinion?

Tim SchroederPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Castle Rock, CO
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 387

Post: What is a good STR ROI in your opinion?

Tim SchroederPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Castle Rock, CO
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 387

With respect, I think 8-12% is a poor return considering the work involved in STRs. I can get 8% all day long in an index mutual fund, for zero work, low risk, and compounded returns over time. I would want to see 20-30% CoC ROI every year. My first STR actually does better than that. Second did about 20%. Just bought another and it should perform similarly.

Post: Should I pay off my loan or LOC??

Tim SchroederPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Castle Rock, CO
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 387
Originally posted by @Mark Cole:
Originally posted by @Tim Schroeder:

Pay off all the high-interest loans then get a new loan at a decent interest rate to fund your future investing. Run, don't walk, to pay off that 13%. The other one is borderline, I guess.

Thanks for the reply Tim. SO the fact that one is a LOC that will be readily available again once balance is paid shouldn't be considered in this instance?

The fact that it's readily available again after it's paid off is certainly handy but not really a factor IMHO

Post: Should I pay off my loan or LOC??

Tim SchroederPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Castle Rock, CO
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 387

Pay off all the high-interest loans then get a new loan at a decent interest rate to fund your future investing. Run, don't walk, to pay off that 13%. The other one is borderline, I guess.

Post: When to list a new STR?

Tim SchroederPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Castle Rock, CO
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 387

List it ASAP. Never turn down money. Just make sure it's ready on time. If pics aren't the best, what have you lost?" Also you could put a statement like "New flooring/kitchen/etc being installed on such-and-such date!"" in the listing or superimposed on the pics.

Post: What do you do when there is a pimp next to your STR?

Tim SchroederPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Castle Rock, CO
  • Posts 335
  • Votes 387
Originally posted by @Nathan Gesner:

I could never be a pimp. It would akin to asking a Hollywood celebrity to watch my pile of cocaine.

I hear you.

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