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All Forum Posts by: David Affonso

David Affonso has started 2 posts and replied 30 times.

Post: Good markets for multi-units

David AffonsoPosted
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Ethan Vegas:

Great question @David Tipton,

For the same incremental improvement in NOI, you get a much higher increase in equity in a low Cap environment vs a high cap environment.

For example, a $50k NOI increase in a 3% area (Beverly Hills?) will yield an increase in value of $1.6MM vs a value yield of $300k for the same $50k NOI increase in a 15% Cap area (San Bernardino?).

Cap rate is essentially a measure of risk/reward & supply/demand.  If you own property in highly desired areas (demand) with low risk, supply is likely limited and investors are willing to pay a higher price for the same amount of return (reward). If your building is in a D neighborhood with high risk, there is likely to be a glut of available property and investors will pay less for the same relative return. 

Being an active property manager, I'm always managing to improve NOI even if only by small margins at a time. Being a landlord/manager means that small choices (good or bad) have large implications. The lower a Cap rate is, the more dramatic the implications.

Assuming that capital is not an issue (which of course it always is), the greatest increases in appreciation can be had with mismanaged buildings (NOI that can be easily improved) in high Cap Rate areas.

Hopefully this helps....

So really you mean decreasing NOI or increasing revenue by decreasing vacancy, maintenance, man hours etc, increasing rent, adding extra units or increasing the value of units? What are other ways to optimize NOI?

I'm in the Bay Area so defenitely low cap rates, a few people have mentioned finding fixer uppers and trying to improve value but it's still such an expensive market to get into. I suppose if I could add an extra unit to a property that would greatly increase the value and NOI.

Thanks for the explanation.

Post: Mountain View, CA

David AffonsoPosted
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Robert Musallam:

Hey @David Affonso

What you could be looking for is a single family home that also has the ability to convert to a 2 unit housing situation. Many properties in Downtown are set up like this and are still priced appropriately for the first time home buyer in this area. 

This sounds very interesting.  I presume you'd just include the reno cost into your numbers.  I wonder if it'd be possible to cashflow from day 1 after taking these costs into consideration.

Post: townhome in Santa Clara (SF bay area)

David AffonsoPosted
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8

@Roy Mitle I might be late to the game on this, but where are you finding 500k properties in Santa Clara County?  Even Condo's seem to be slightly above that...

Post: Mountain View, CA

David AffonsoPosted
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Robert Musallam:

@Carson Sweezy

 She could consider a condo in downtown SJ for around that price. The commute to Mountain View through Foster City would be about 25-35 minutes from there. I'd also be happy to help her find a rental if she would like some assistance. Feel free to reach out.

 I don't see how a downtown SJ commute to Mountain View or Foster City would be 25-35 minutes. During commuting hours and in a car that's 45+ minutes and if you take the train it likely doesn't drop you near the industry you need, another 40+ minutes.

I'm also in the same boat, working a decent to good sales job but nowhere near the $50k downpayment for even the cheapest of places.

Any recommendations besides hoarding cash and potentially looking in surrounding areas I'm familiar with (Stockton/Manteca/Tracy, Santa Rosa/Sanoma, Monterey, Seaside, Salinas?) Even these locations are pretty expensive and don't offer the return.

I almost feel like just saving for a 3-4 unit in Mt. View and getting an FHA or subsidized loan doing the Brandon BB move of Househacking. The problem is it'll take at least a year if not longer for this. Or the out of state play but I'm sketch on that for my first purchase.

Post: Mountain View, CA

David AffonsoPosted
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8

Can anyone help a newb learn how to delete and @username properly?

Post: Newbie takes a step

David AffonsoPosted
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Michael Moikeha:

If the pickings are slim online, then boots on the ground may be your best approach, especially if you are not opposed to doing a little fixing first.

If you are only looking in a 15 min radius, start walking, running, biking, or driving down every street in this range over the next few days, and take note of places that look undermanaged or empty, and do the research to find the owners and see if they would be interested in selling.

Takes some smooth talking, and very quick relationship building, but it works sometimes.

What methods would one use to find owners?  I hear a lot about absentee lists, are there free services that provide this or only fee based services?

Post: Santa Clara county

David AffonsoPosted
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8

@Paul Timmins 


Can you elaborate on this self-directed IRA strategy? Is this your own money coming out of an IRA or do you partner up for the private money. I suppose if it's the latter the work would be in identifying those partners without a lot of skin in the game or experience.

@David Beard 

Do these more established whole sale companies ever allow you to buy with a bank loan or they mainly focus in non-commercial lending because the property is so bad?

Thanks for the posts guys, never really new about self-directed IRAs or wholesale companies, always thought it was primarily individuals.

Post: When does the clock start ticking?

David AffonsoPosted
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8

I'd be interested in this as well. 

Let's say one buys a multifamily FHA and moves in but gets laid off, transferred, or just decides to take a job in another area. Would the bank allow this scenario as a means of bringing in income to continue to pay the mortgage?

@Ross Ellington At least in California I believe if you buy a multifamily you are able to evict on of the units for your personal residence. I wonder if in places with rent control one could continue to change units in their own building to be able to raise the rent, say due to remodeling??

Post: Newbie From Bay Area, California

David AffonsoPosted
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8

Thanks for all the warm welcomes!

@Arlen Chou It sounds like you pulled it off, very inspiring.

@Shane Pearlman perhaps I'll open up my area restrictions, that just seems like such a convenient place both in the short term (gf and my employment) and in the long term (University, access to cal-train, older neighborhood)

@Paul Timmins  thanks for the great resources

@Assaf Furman  Sorry I couldn't make this month's meeting, I'll look forward to next month.  Just signed up via Meetup.

Post: Newbie From Bay Area, California

David AffonsoPosted
  • Mountain View, CA
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8

Hi BP Community,

I'm a newbiew to BP and real estate although I've been interested and researching for almost a year now.  I've recently moved back to the South Bay (Palo Alto, Mountain View, Santa Clara, Sunnyvale, San Jose) area working my dayjob in the IT staffing industry as a recruiter and account manager with Apex Systems.

I've done some research over the last year and I'd love to be able to set a 1-2 year goal of buying a multi family (2-4 unites) with an FHA or other subsidzed first time home owner loan.

My target area is in Santa Clara in between the University and the Cal Train station.  This is close to my work and my girlfriend could caltrain into downtown Palo Alto (where she works) and I think it would have long term value as the Bay Area gets moer congested.

I know Silicon Valley is a tough market for newbies, but I'm really curious if anyone has had any success with this recently.  I'd live in 1 unit and rent out the others, but really my goal would be to find something at least cash flow neutral if I decided to move out and rent all units. 

I haven't seen any properties yet, but when I do some napkin math based on trulia and other appraisal site it just doesn't seem possible in this market.

Either way I've been to a few local REITs and really look forward to getting more involved in Bigger Pockets.  Any advice for the above scenario would be fantastic but also just a warm welcome would be nice.

Thanks a lot Brandon and Josh for the great podcasts, really helps with the afternoon commute.

Best,

David Affonso