All Forum Posts by: Dell Schlabach
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Post: My first flip has been listed.

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Congratulations on your first flip highly profitable flip!!
60k+ on your first flip.
For that kind of money, l would learn from the critique, and ignore the others.
Post: Seller doesn't want to extend closing date

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We were on the other side of one of these a couple weeks ago.
If you really want the deal and are confident that it will close.
I would suggest taking Brian's advise. I asked our buyer for 2,500 non refundable if he doesn't close in three weeks, he did that and we ammended the closing date.
If that doesn't work and you have a really sweet deal, you can also ask him how much extra he needs to stay in he deal. Maybe an extra 1,000 - 5,000 would keep him in he deal. You have to determine if it's worth that to you.
You have options but threating to sure him is not a viable one.
Good luck
Post: CAT Tax - Wholesale deal question

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We wholesale 40+ houses a year, most of them we double close on since they are bank owned and can't be assigned.
Ohio, if your volume is over 1,000,000 in sales you pay CAT (commercial activity tax).
You don't have to sell many houses to exceed the million dollar mark.
I am told I need to pay CAT tax on the sale price of them.
Odd tax it seems like, nothing to do with profits, if I lose money on a house I still have to pay CAT taxes on the price of the sale. Had a friend sold a 750,000 house lost about 60k on the deal and has to pay CAT taxes, that's painful.
We wholesale as a side business to our rehabs, to guys who buy from us consistently, and charge them 5,000. Not a lot of money but it's consistent business, that's easy and when you do volume it adds up.
So when I wholesales a house for 200,000. And make 5,000, I have to pay CAT tax on the 200,000. Just seems wrong, but I haven't found an accountant who has a legal way around it.
Looking at financial statement here with 22,274 in CAT taxes I paid last year.
Any one know an accounting workaround that won't get me into hot water with the IRS.
Post: Why Not Pay Fortune Builders?

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We rehab and flip/wholesale 50+ houses a year, spent 50k plus on gurus and seminars and fast tracks that didn't help much. If I had followed the advise in these books for 49.00 I would have shortened the learning curve massively. This is by far the best nuts and bolts how to manual with checksheet, scopes, work order ...easily worth 10k in my opinion.
Compared to some of the 10-30k stuff being sold, this would be worth 5-10 times the value of most of those programs in my opinion.
They are the books I give to every new Affilliates that joins our group and buys properties from us to rehab.
And nobody pays me to reccomend them .....
This should be the course material to teach the fundamentals of rehabbing houses in my opinion.
Post: cheap flip with water in the basement

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Originally posted by @Laurie Verdecchio:
I'm worried about damage to foundation.
We buy quite a few with water in the basement. 8 inches of water does not typically cause foundation issues.
We've bought plenty with 2-3 ft if water. Typically the power is off and the sump pump not working and or other drainage issues that can be fixed.
If you know the source and have a solution to fix it get some 24 inch waders and a powerful flashlight and walk through the basement see if there are any obvious foundation issues.
8 inches of water in basement will typically destroy your furnace and your hot water heater and most things sitting in the floor, but if you budget for those you should be good.
If it's finished basement, you have trim and drywalling that needs removed and potentially some framing .....but at 8 inches your wiring and recepatcles should still be ok.
Budget for the repairs needed and offer accordingly. Other option have a waterproofing foundation contractor go inspect with you.
Good luck
Post: Cabinet recommendation for middle end rental

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Originally posted by @Charles Hyatt:
1,400 sqft, 3/2, $1,500 rent - Replace kitchen cabinets and countertop
My first quote on cabinets came in at $4,800 (just materials). Believe the manufacturer was Omega and the quality is pretty good, maple with self closing doors.
I'm looking to keep the cabinets under $4k and these seemed expensive. Can anyone recommend a product for this type of rental? Planning on going with a lower end granite.
Thanks,
-Charli
Check out kitchen kompact, real wood, no particleboard, some I'd the best build , decent looking low end cabinets. What we use in most of our rehabs under 200k
Should be able to get kitchen for 1500-1800
Post: Is This Possible!?!? 30K~35K Properties W/$250$350.00+ Cash Flow?

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Originally posted by @Matthew Paul:
Whats a $30K house ? Never seen one
If our area there are a lot of the 30,000 houses, most of the 20k-30k houses are bought by local landlords, or investors and as to the out of state guys for 40-60 and they try and manage them for a few years and then try and sell them after they get fed up tryi ng to manage them from a distance, most management companies do not like to manage that price range of properties and the tenants they typically draw.
When they out the properties in the market a few years later, unless they can sell them to another outbid state investor they are typically stuck with selling them to the local for 20-30k . Not a lot of return realised in this scenario , I have seen this repeated over and over during the past 15+ years.
Some people are making money in this game, mostly locals who know the neighborhoods and the schools districts well. Don't expect houses in most areas in this price range to appreciate in the next 10-20 years. More likely, if you are an out of state investor, your property will sell for less then you paid for it. The 200.00-400.00 a month cash flow quickly gets wiped out with repairs, vacancies maintainance management..or your trips back here trying to run them when things go wrong.
I know a few people who do well in that market, but I know a LOT more who don't.
Post: Wholesaling To Flipper: How To Make An Offer

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Originally posted by @Brian Pulaski:
Does the seller know you are not buying it?
Also one thing to takeaway. You list $60k for the flippers holding costs and profit. A $360k house will probably have $30k in closing costs, and a flipper taking a loan will probably have $10k in holding costs. You now have to sell to a flipper where he might make $20k on a $300k outlay. I would pass on this deal all day long.
Also what SOW did you run to get $55k rehab? Did you have a contractor provid it, or did you run your own numbers? Biggest issue I see with wholesale rehab estimates, they forget the HVAC work, demo costs, landscaping, etc...
Post: Lea Kearney 5030 Experience - Wholesaling Course

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Originally posted by @John Thedford:
Originally posted by @Dell Schlabach:
Originally posted by @John Thedford:
Originally posted by @Dell Schlabach:
Originally posted by @John Thedford:
Originally posted by @Dell Schlabach:
Interesting question I just thought of they didn't address in real estate classes.
As a licensed agent it is legal assign a contract, but not legal as an unlicenced individual?
Florida? Ohio?
Of course that is legal in Florida you are licensed to represent others. Advertising properties, for another, if brokering. The assignment clause is not understood by many. It was never intended to be used to broker real estate. Legitimate uses may be to take on a partner and put the property into an entity, tie up a property for your family so they can take possession at closing, etc. There are and were lots of victims of bad operators putting properties under contract with no intention of closing, not being able to assign, and walking away. Typical M/O would be to use BS escape clauses, then advertise the property. If unsuccessful, they simply gave the seller one of their BS excuses in the contract and walked. The state has dealt with these types of people in 475.43.
I have seen plenty of bad operators in the last 15 years, and understand what they are trying to prevent.
The idea that it was not legal for me to assign a contract on a property before I had my license, but now that I have my license it is legal, seems illogical.
You mentioned that it's legal for me to represent others as an agent. In my assignments before I was licensed as well as after I was licensed, I did not and do not represent either the buyer or the seller. I represent myself.
So I have a hard time seeing how being an agent who does not represent the buyer or the seller, all of a sudden it is legal, thoughts?
Or is it that assigning is not illegeal, but the advertising of a property that you don't own is illegeal?
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As I explained above, assignment clauses have a legitimate place. As a licensee, you know that advertising properties you do now own, unless licensed, is legal. The brokerage acts are called A BAR SALE
Advertising
Buying
Appraising
Renting
Selling
Auctioning
Leasing
Exchanging
FOR ANOTHER...are brokerage activities. So those using contract to circumvent licensing are brokering without a license. If you were putting properties under contract for the sole purpose of selling the properties you were brokering. If the state was not aware, they could not take action. If the state had become aware, you would appear on the state unlicensed activity database. I know people state they are NOT representing others when assigning, but the state does not see it that way. That is SELLING PROPERTIES FOR ANOTHER. It is TOTALLY LOGICAL that assigning contracts, as a licensee, is legal. You ARE representing others real estate. As I noted, assigning IS legal for various reasons. I always make my purchase contracts assignable and then put them into my S Corp or LLC. Even if not a licensee, I would not be representing the seller, but MY interests. I would not be making a fee on the assignment. Read 475.43. I turn in people EVERY WEEK for brokering without a license. You can find them all over CL and BP. Eventually they get a cease and desist order from the state.
Some people don't like this information. Some people hate it because they have been misled and believe they have the right to do so. I don't know what the cost of the program the OP mentioned is, but if they are teaching BAD info it is definitely a waste of money. I would love the OP to chime in and state what the costs are. Why not get licensed instead. The opens the door to lots of opportunities, the keeps them out of trouble.
We have a business model where we buy mostly 75%+ bank owned houses, those we rehab 15+ a year, and we sell average of three a month to other rehabbers who run a rehab model similar to ours. For the bank owned houses, we so do simultaneous closing, he non bank ones we assign whenever feasable to keep costs to a minimum.
We just started in the Fla market, and last week got a contract in our first Fla rehab. Have one closed in the buy side and two more under contract. I am licensed in Ohio but not yet in Fla.
Some of our buyers want to do some rehabs down here.... Just trying to clarify some of the nuiances.
If you are closing and then reselling that is NOT a brokerage action. If you are sending out emails offering properties you do NOT own, that is brokering without a license. I get emails all the time from these types. Got one yesterday. I am sending in a complaint on him today.
Your logic here again appears to be, because they are advertising property they don't own, it is illegal
Post: Lea Kearney 5030 Experience - Wholesaling Course

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Originally posted by @John Thedford:
Originally posted by @Dell Schlabach:
So the logic goes something like, although you are not representing either party, buyer or seller and you have no fiduciary responsibility to them.
If you are assigning quite a few they would consider that you are selling "for another" even though you are not representing "another".
Not quite right. It has nothing to do with fiduciary duty. If you cannot assign the contract, you cannot SELL the property. Selling for another is a brokerage action regardless if it is a listing or an assignment.
Copied this from one of your responses...
....If you were putting properties under contract for the sole purpose of selling the properties you were brokering...
So this seems to be the clause that makes it illegeal if I am not licensed, doing mostly assignments as a business model?