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All Forum Posts by: Doug Spence

Doug Spence has started 33 posts and replied 1047 times.

Post: VA Loan Restrictions?

Doug SpencePosted
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  • San Diego, CA
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I've never heard of a distance restriction for the VA loan, and I doubt there is one. @Erik Browning have you heard of that?

Post: Any value in Oklahoma City?

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@Account Closed in Tulsa is your go-to if you decide to invest in Tulsa as well. 

Post: New Member is OKC!

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@Chelsey Coleman Sounds like a good plan! I've been using a fantastic property manager and agent there in OKC for a few years now. Happy to connect you with them. I believe they do local meetups as well! That would be a great way for you to connect with other local investors. 

Post: New Member is OKC!

Doug SpencePosted
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Welcome to bigger pockets! I own property in Oklahoma (OKC and Tulsa) and I think its a great market. 

Have you and you husband determined your investing goals yet? What do you want your lives to look like in 5-10 years?

Post: Best way to market a MTR/LTR rental...

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@JT Thomson You could contact insurance placement companies as well. ALE Solutions is one, and I think they're a national company. 

Post: Buying the first property (out of state, unseen) - advice needed!

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@V.G Jason

Having a solid team of people that you trust (including contractors) is crucial to invest out of state! I think its very relevant to the question, but I respect the fact that you disagree. 

Post: Help!!! New to this. 200k and no idea what to do with it.

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Quote from @Ben Jacobs:
Quote from @Doug Spence:

@Ben Jacobs Welcome to bigger pockets!

What are your investment goals? Its tough to chart course if you don't know where you're going. 

Are you set on the Hawaii market? If cash flow is your goal, I'd recommend looking outside of Hawaii like @Samuel Lynch said. Many people will tell you investing out of state isn't a good idea, but I've been able to build most of my real estate portfolio out of state, so I can assure you its possible. It just requires a different skillset than investing where you live, and most people just decide its too difficult and quit before they even try. 

You could also consider syndications if you want to be completely passive. It all depends on your goals, how much time you have to dedicate to real estate every day/week, your risk tolerance, etc. I recently wrote a small ebook titled "6 reasons to invest out of state". I'm happy to send it your way.

Good luck and let us know what you decide to do!


 Thanks Doug I appreciate the info. I'm really hesitant of out of state but open to it. My main goal is to cash flow 10k a month. I'm really interested in multi-family properties. Any advice is appreciated. I eventually do want it really passive because I will eventually be out of the country. 

 @Ben Jacobs Happy to help however I can. I have friends that do multifamily as well, and I could connect you with them. My calendly link is in my profile. 

Post: Buying the first property (out of state, unseen) - advice needed!

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Quote from @V.G Jason:
Quote from @Svetlana Kazantseva:

Hi BP community! I have gathered the courage to make on offer on my first investment property. The deal seems good:

Good B+ area in Columbia, SC suburb, great schools, 3 bed 2 bath, needs some cosmetic work (repaint interior, a few holes in the wall to fix, 1 broken window to replace, likely replace laminate flooring in 1 room, replace bathroom sealant)

ARV is around 220k, it's offered for 165k and already has a cash offer of 172k (I'll be financing). After cosmetic repairs it may rent for 1.7k

I believe it's a good deal and numbers seem to work. My realtor made a few videos for me and seems like no major work needs to be done. I have no idea of repair costs.

Any advice on making an offer considering I didn't see the property in person? Should I make a contingency of inspection offer? I don't want to loose a good deal but also to get trapped into a bad one. Thank you so much!


 Out of state rehab? This **** is tough. Contractors, ARVs, etc., all are a crock of ****. I recommend going turnkey out of state, unless you can get yourself to the site and be on top of it. Or know how to draft contracts for contractors to mitigated by their normal downfalls.


 What is the value of seeing the home in person if the prospective owner is not proficient at inspecting homes? I've purchased many properties out of state, and I haven't been inside a single one of them before closing. Some of them I've never even seen from the street in person.  Walking through the home is usually an emotional thing, not a logical thing, and when you're buying a property as an investment, emotions should be removed from the equation.

Its all about having people you trust there to look at it: a excellent investor friendly agent and a fantastic home inspector are all I need! 

Why is it that people are unwilling to buy a property they've never been to, but are totally cool with buying stock in a company they know almost nothing about?

Post: Help!!! New to this. 200k and no idea what to do with it.

Doug SpencePosted
  • Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 1,242
  • Votes 975

@Ben Jacobs Welcome to bigger pockets!

What are your investment goals? Its tough to chart course if you don't know where you're going. 

Are you set on the Hawaii market? If cash flow is your goal, I'd recommend looking outside of Hawaii like @Samuel Lynch said. Many people will tell you investing out of state isn't a good idea, but I've been able to build most of my real estate portfolio out of state, so I can assure you its possible. It just requires a different skillset than investing where you live, and most people just decide its too difficult and quit before they even try. 

You could also consider syndications if you want to be completely passive. It all depends on your goals, how much time you have to dedicate to real estate every day/week, your risk tolerance, etc. I recently wrote a small ebook titled "6 reasons to invest out of state". I'm happy to send it your way.

Good luck and let us know what you decide to do!

Post: Seeking a Real Estate Investment Mentor

Doug SpencePosted
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  • San Diego, CA
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@Phil Avery I'm originally from Houston but currently live in San Diego. I've done a lot of out-of-state investing (Florida, Oklahoma, and Wisconsin) and I'm happy to jump on a call and see if theres a way I can provide value to you. My calendly link is on my profile.