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Post: OK who has received all or most of their rent this month ?
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@Jay Hinrichs I think this month will be pretty “normal” and the first big wave of non-payments will happen in May. Though it will depend on numerous things of course.
If the stimulus checks hit around the end of April beginning of May people could kick the can down the road until June 1st if tenants make plans.
I haven’t even looked at which of my tenants have paid. That’s why I have a PM. He will notify me after the weekend of who has and hasn’t paid and who’s communicated about being late etc etc. one day at a time and panicking serves no purpose at this juncture in time.
If two farmers pray for rain and one prepares their field who believes in God? The one who prepares for the rain.
Now we will see who prepared for a downturn? Only time will tell.
Post: OK who has received all or most of their rent this month ?
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Originally posted by @Celeste Nadal:
I had only been a landlord for 6 days as of April 1st. I did not sleep well until my 4th of 4 rents came in at 10:30pm. I have a feeling the first of every month is going to take on a whole new meaning for me as long as I am in this business.
It gets better. This is a unique situation and not normal at all. It will take time to sort it out. Hopefully you have reserves or at least a job that you are still working right now.
Post: Buying an apartment complex tips
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Originally posted by @Jonathan M.:
Hello BP!
Hello everyone, in the coming months I want to be prepared to bounce on apartment complex deals due to covid-19. I am looking for a lot of advice for after I purchase the asset and how to effectively run the property. Id like to know how experienced apartment owners run there property from start to finish.
-Best way to finance a property over 6 units?
-How should I handle security deposits and rents? Should I open an account for each unit?
-Should set-up an additional LLC for managing the cash-flow and the property?
-How should I structure taxes in getting the biggest deductions? if I am considered a full time real-estate professional?
-Is there a software that investors recommend to track everything?
I am a relatively new investor to the apartment complex world, I have not done a larger scale project more than 4 units.
So far I am pre-approved with a commercial lender, I have set-up an LLC to purchase a complex. I have a real-estate attorney to handle title/closing and CPA for taxes.
Please if anyone has anymore advice other than the questions asked above pls elaborate. Thank you everyone!
Welcome to this side of 4 units.
For financing shop around and find a reputable lender, don’t think best rate equals best deal since a “promise” means nothing until rate lock and closing docs signed.
For security deposits and last months rent is I use a single account for each LLC. Don't make it complicated. A business doesn't have a checking account for each customer. (Ensure the prorated rents, security deposits, other refundable, last months rents are included in closing documents).
the additional LLC isn’t needed to manage cash flow unless you plan on becoming a property manager for third party people and that would be separate from the apartments LLC.
An LLC doesn't get extra tax benefits due to structuring. However, I recommend speaking to a CPA (like @Natalie K) who does tax strategy for real estate investors.
My new property manager uses appfolio and I’m currently happy with the system so far. Also depends how many properties you have and how many you are wanting to buy as to how i would purchase a management system.
Post: Military tenant trashed house
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Originally posted by @Mike M.:
@Eric C.
Thanks for your input, Eric C. I too am a veteran, currently deployed overseas and trying to work this issue. I have a gameplan in place with my less-than stellar PM, who is actively being replaced as well.
Thanks for everyone’s suggestions- very helpful as always.
I feel you on the deployed overseas trying to deal with these type of issues. PM sent.
Post: Military tenant trashed house
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Originally posted by @Mike M.:
My previous tenants moved out and trashed my property. My property manager took all of their deposits and applied it to repairs but they still owe over $1000. She still works at the base as a Reservist and lives in the local area. I’m currently 8 time zones away and my PM is failing me by 1. Having not yet collected said payment (was due in Jan) and, 2. Waiting until this unfortunate pandemic to inform me that there’s nothing they can do about it now.
Any varsity tips on this one? Should I bypass my PM, find out who her supervisor is and Cc him on an email to her? Go to JAG? Let it work itself out after the courts open? Thanks BP!
I always hate the oh they are in the military call their commander answer. How would you treat this if they weren’t in the military? You’d file the debt with the court and or credit agency (actually your PM would/should) and you move on as a lesson learned. I’m a veteran and no I’ve never had my commander called. Though I understand the appeal of that as a tool in your toolkit to get money owed.
What if they worked for a corporation, would you try and contact their human resource department or supervisor? How about if they have a job that requires a security clearance? You going to go to OPM and say they aren’t paying their debts?
I’d be more concerned with your PM than the tenant at this point. Why aren’t they handling this better? Why are they even contacting you about this? If it is a military town the PM should be a pro at dealing with past due bills and damage deposits with a military member.
Might be time to find a new PM
Post: Purchased a home with non-paying tenants
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Originally posted by @Catalin Chindea:
Originally posted by @Michael Jones:
Originally posted by @Catalin Chindea:
Cash for Keys is not a last resort. It is the quickest way to solve you problem and most likely the lowest cost to sovle the problem as well.
For example, $600.00 for a months rent...it will take at least two months to get an eviction if they force you to court. That is $1,200 lost rent. Then the court cost added to the $1,200. Damage to the unit because they are pissed off that you are throwing them in the streets.
I can go on with a sympathetic judge saying due to Covit and the economy they will have an extra month to find a new place, then cost of the sherif if you have to do a set out.
Or you can put emotions and principle aside and realize that it is business the same as if you had a bad hot water heater. I need a water heater and it cost xxx to replace this and fix my problem. When can the plumber begin work.
You have a business problem: You have a tenant that isnt paying rent on a house you want to flip and due to this you were able to save several thousand dollars on the deal. Now lose one of those thousands and wave it figuratively in the face of the tenant and if by say one week from today a walkthough is done and the tenant is moved out you will hand them the $1,000 and you can get to work you will be rewarding yourself.
Its business. its never personal and sometimes we have to pay to fix the issue.
Makes sense. You think $1000 and 2 weeks to clean the mess (aparently a pitbull with ten puppies) would persuade them?
You won’t know until you make the offer to them. Don’t waste another day. Further into the pandemic the more scared and panicked people will become.
Post: Purchased a home with non-paying tenants
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Originally posted by @Catalin Chindea:
Did the previous landlord forgive the missing rent? What’s the closing documents say? Past due rent doesn’t go away because of a new owner however it should have been spelt out in the contract with the seller.
Post: Purchased a home with non-paying tenants
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Originally posted by @Catalin Chindea:
I’d recommend try and do a cash for keys. I can’t speak to the legality of the lease and verbal agreements. But if the house is to be flipped I’d make any efforts I can to get them out sooner rather than later.
Good luck
Post: Lease ended, ky says no evictions because Covid-19
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@Kira Simmons send her a new month to month lease for April going forward. I have always raised the rents for month to month by 50 dollars a month. I don’t recommend that but I do think a month to month lease is the way to go for you right now.
Post: Rent collection challenges in COVID-19 times !
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Originally posted by @Marita Jojo:
@Eric C. Did you have any chance where the rent was reversed by Cozy ? I thought they take 5 days to make sure it can’t be reversed
If the tenant used a credit card all it takes is a single phone call to their credit card company and it’s reversed and it is on the landlord to prove it which can be difficult.
I have been lucky to not have dealt with it, but read enough about it to know for my tenant base it isn’t worth the risk.